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  • #46
    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    Also setting up office in a café takes no longer than placing your 13" tablet on the table along with a wireless keyboard (those Apple keyboards are not large!) en you're up and running.
    How about using a 13" notebook, that way you only have to carry around one thing. Seriously what you just wrote has got to be one of the dumbest use cases for an iPad I have ever seen, congratulations!

    This sort of delirious talk is often a sign of iPad fever. A disease commonly found in adolescent teenagers, fashionistas, homosexuals and other groups of people known to be susceptible to a good marketing ploy.

    Well done Apple!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by locovaca View Post
      Using a keyboard with a tablet, which is presumably propped up on a desk, requires a longer reach and two hands, one to stabilize the tablet and one to gesture (or both to gesture).
      That's not true; you can roll up the new iPad cover like this:
      http://whollysblog.com/wordpress/wp-...rt-cover-1.jpg

      [...]is that the device is meant to supplement, not replace a full size desktop.
      Apple realy is trying to migrate almost fully to the iPad as a desktop replacement by calling it a 'post-pc-device' and integrating iPad features to Mac OS X for smooth transition. They already offer a trackpad mouse replacement for their desktop iMac.

      Actually, in my experience, people in the 30-50 year range are just starting to get near universal acceptance of the Microsoft Office Suite and web browsers. I think you are exaggerating here.
      Wait untill they switch from XP to Windows 7. Anyway the point I was trying to make (and maybe a little extreme with the 'e') was that the iPad was more intuitive than a desktop computer (or at least Windows).

      Actually, I consider the lack of competition to be bad in just about any area, and the iPad is no exception.
      I fully agree here, but what I meant to say was "Yet". This because if Apple sets the bar for a little longer, they can make other companies prepare for such a global idea of what tablets can be for and like. Hell I'm using Fedora 15 Alpha and visit a Linux hardware review site. You don't realy think I like practical monopolies (Windows), do you?

      As a companion to a standard desktop it is overpriced. Get the base price down to $200 and then we're talking.
      No we are not; You're comparing it to a 13" laptop. Those cost more than $500. You also didn't want it to a netbook failure.
      Apple also upgraded the CPU with an extra core and 9x the graphics performance (OpenGL ES 2.0) so the iPad is being agressively updated in performance (they hired a chip design team to squeeze extra power out of ARMs design). So performance is being worked on and the current Android tablets are realy laughed at from a hardware perspective.

      I'm not saying the iPad isn't a good device or that it's not wildly successful in certain markets. But the exponential growth seen with the iPad is just not sustainable and will level out once the secondary pc/tablet market saturates.
      Apple is known for releasing their first product as solid and bare as possible. Believe in that my first reaction to the first iPad was like this:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HHLNQ3BZEA
      (^ check it out if you want to laugh realy hard)

      Later on I started to see the potential of this large iPod Touch when I saw a journalist create documents with a wireless Apple keyboard like this (in size):
      http://www.buyapplereader.com/wp-content/uploads/ipad wireless keyboard.jpg

      Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
      How about using a 13" notebook, that way you only have to carry around one thing. Seriously what you just wrote has got to be one of the dumbest use cases for an iPad I have ever seen, congratulations!
      I know that your brain has been fscked by too much slashvertising hate, mr. AC, but I think I make a pretty good use case.

      This sort of delirious talk is often a sign of iPad fever. A disease commonly found in adolescent teenagers, fashionistas, homosexuals and other groups of people known to be susceptible to a good marketing ploy.
      Luckily I am none of that and FYI I have a 13" Vaio with a HD5470 running Fedora 15 Alpha with open source drivers and I have an stock Android smartphone.

      Well done Apple!
      Imbecile Now go do your LFS install on that Pentium3 laptop because modern computers are full of TCP chips and you don't need to upgrade because loading FireFox in 10 seconds is reasonable and eMacs does LaTeX which is way more pro than those new WYSIWYG editors and there damn formats!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
        Anyway the point I was trying to make was that the iPad was more intuitive than a desktop computer (or at least Windows).
        This thread is so off-topic right now that one more contribution won't make much difference, so here goes.
        I have to agree with you on that one. Having used for a few minutes a few iDevices lately, they are quite easy and natural to use. It's even possible to install a terminal emulator and SSH client and server on them, so how much more friendly can it get?

        Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
        Apple also upgraded the CPU with an extra core and 9x the graphics performance (OpenGL ES 2.0) so the iPad is being agressively updated in performance (they hired a chip design team to squeeze extra power out of ARMs design). So performance is being worked on and the current Android tablets are realy laughed at from a hardware perspective.
        That 9x graphics performance must be on some very specific app, because all the tests I've seen don't come close to that. It's much better, sure, but not 9x. At most it was 5x IIRC. The dual core CPU does make a big difference though. On the Android front, the Motorola Xoom seems to be the top dog right now, but it still looses to the iPad 2 in most areas. We should see some very insteresting Android 3.0 devices shortly.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by methril View Post
          From the new:

          I`m interested in this target, i`m embedded developer, and i usually make drivers for Linux (i did some net drivers), but i would like to improve my 3D/GPU drivers, how could i help? I see the learning curve a little bit high, but i would like to help in any way.
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          Methril
          Rafael Campos Las Heras
          Hi Rafael,

          Do you have interest in a specific existing chip line, or do you just want to help out in general?

          There's some documentation out there on how videos and the 3D pipeline work, and there's definitely room for improvement in the drivers out there.

          One general link that describes the overall 3D pipeline and software stack is here:
          http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Do...VideoCardsWork

          You will probably want to familiarize yourself with Gallium3D, as that's what a lot of future development will probably use
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D (also check out the external links there)

          I've often heard that the best way to get involved is to pick an extension that you would like to see supported in Mesa and actually create an implementation of it.

          Either that, or just find a bug on the Mesa bug tracker and try to fix it ( start at https://bugs.freedesktop.org and search for Mesa bugs).

          You might also want to start reading the mesa-dev mailing list to see how things are done.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
            this "hd 8000" generation is about 2 years away right????
            no 2012... 6-8 months

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            • #51
              Hi Veerappan,

              Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
              Hi Rafael,

              Do you have interest in a specific existing chip line, or do you just want to help out in general?
              In both. i`ve 2 ATI cards due to Open Documentation (X1600 Mobile - r300g - & HD4680 - r600g), but i would like to improve the 3D world in Linux. I`m also concerned about the power consumption problems.

              Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
              There's some documentation out there on how videos and the 3D pipeline work, and there's definitely room for improvement in the drivers out there.

              One general link that describes the overall 3D pipeline and software stack is here:
              http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Do...VideoCardsWork

              You will probably want to familiarize yourself with Gallium3D, as that's what a lot of future development will probably use
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D (also check out the external links there)

              I've often heard that the best way to get involved is to pick an extension that you would like to see supported in Mesa and actually create an implementation of it.
              I read this in the past, but i`m going to take a look again.

              Originally posted by Veerappan View Post
              Either that, or just find a bug on the Mesa bug tracker and try to fix it ( start at https://bugs.freedesktop.org and search for Mesa bugs).

              You might also want to start reading the mesa-dev mailing list to see how things are done.
              I`m suscribed to the ml, and i read regularly.

              Thank you for the tips & tricks

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