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  • ATI R200 Linux Driver Redux

    Last week we had published The Truth About ATI/AMD & Linux, and to no real surprise, the feedback ranged from beliefs that it was propaganda to others being grateful that AMD finally shared some additional information with their Linux customers about the fglrx development cycle. While the article was far from being propaganda, what had outraged a number of open-source developers were AMD's comments on the R200 support or there the lack of. In this article, we have a few additional comments to share along with what some open-source developers had to say about AMD's information.
    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=10158

    Discuss Here.
    Michael Larabel
    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

  • #2
    let's hope that ati will do something significant to help linux developers like glisse and airlied, instead of being overzealous about their IP.

    other than that i can only hope for their success. i don't really put much hopes in fglrx anymore.

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    • #3
      ATI will be overzealous. AMD, the new owner, may/may not be. Depends on how much sting all the truth getting out causes them and how badly they want to be a player in this space. They're not doing so hot, financially, right at the moment, so they might just figure out releasing technical data and helping with the driver source for the win is in their best interests- but they may not, so I'm not holding my breath.

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      • #4
        they might just figure out releasing technical data and helping with the driver source for the win is in their best interests- but they may not, so I'm not holding my breath.
        yeah, but only in the long-term. they are probably more concerned at the things at hand.

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        • #5
          Does anyone know how to contact the devs and if those of us with X1K cards can help out somehow?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Raven3x7 View Post
            Does anyone know how to contact the devs and if those of us with X1K cards can help out somehow?
            I've been in contact with the X1000 RE developers since basically the beginning. Once they need dumps there will be more information available on Phoronix.

            A bit more info on my blog: http://www.michaellarabel.com/index....arch&t=Reverse
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #7
              I really look forward to the open drivers for the r500 now.
              All I really hope is a nice 2d acceleration capable of handling HDTV + no problems with 2nd display.
              Does my request sound achievable for this stage of the driver?

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              • #8
                3d acceleration is probably not there yet. but it certainly will.

                what do you mean by hdtv? tv-out?

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                • #9
                  No, HDTV rips, .mkv-s. If the driver can handle the 40 Mbps rip of LOST I'm safe
                  And while I'm on topic, is anybody familiar whether playback of HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays is a reality on Linux?
                  Last edited by sundown; 06-09-2007, 01:14 PM.

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                  • #10
                    one of those formats is getting there (mplayer/ffmpeg has some support). at least unencrypted ones. no idea what the developers are going to do about already getting broken encryption (maybe there will be something like libdvdcss library to handle encrypted media someday).

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                    • #11
                      While the article was far from being propaganda
                      I'll make up my own mind, thank you very much.


                      Am I reading the article wrongly when all i notice is
                      "developers are saying that", while not taking any position, or
                      containing any response. Basically it's not even an errata, just another
                      viewpoint. (Hence i'm missing the point a bit, on making an article out of the forum thread)


                      For comparison, NVIDIA does not provide its GPU specifications to open-source developers, but they do provide an open-source 2D display driver. Intel provides open-source 3D display drivers,
                      I don't really believe too much in comparing, but is it just me who reads that as a comparison that makes ATI appear worst. The result of only releasing specs to a few under NDA, is a foss driver, only ati didn't have to pay for development.

                      On the other hand i'm very happy to learn about the RE driver for the r500, I'm sure it 'll pop on my radar when it's around. then perhaps finally..

                      but my next graphics card is an intel. I don't believe waiting for amd/ati is worth it at this point.

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                      • #12
                        Michael, while your article outlines the problems people are having with the original article, the article would be a lot more interesting if you had AMD's responses to these outbursts (hint: another follow up article)

                        Anyway, here's to hoping AMD is man enough to respond.

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                        • #13
                          yeah, maybe amd will finally notice us, linux users, through these outbursts of dissappointment.

                          that is certainly bad press for ati\amd, so it might encourage them to make an effort and actually do something about it.

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                          • #14
                            This is my first post here. Right off the bat I want to say thanks to everyone who has helped me with this fglrx driver for FC6. I think I know you all. I have read your post over the last months. I work for a small company that I made a hard sale on Linux 4 years ago now. We bought 12 laptops with ati rage M3 video. At the time we picked them because ATI talked like they would provide all the info to the Linux community to write drivers. Well we all know the rest of the story. The good part of the story is the servers and desktops have Nivdia video. That has worked out Great. A real success story for a small company and Linux.

                            Thought it was important to put my two cents in.

                            Thanks EveryOne. Michael thanks for you great effort.

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