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  • #91
    I still don't get it :P OpenGL is an open standard that is so open that it needs to be reverse engineered?

    And you complain about D3D for Gallium >.<

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    • #92
      Originally posted by RealNC View Post
      I still don't get it :P OpenGL is an open standard that is so open that it needs to be reverse engineered?
      The OpenGL standard describes an API. You still need to translate that API to hardware calls -- this is what the driver does.

      If you don't know how to pass the needed data to the gfx card, you can wipe your ass with the open standard.

      BTW, please show me D3D for gallium working on any hardware, and specifically using S3TC on any hardware.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
        MostAwesomeDude: Revan199: They cannot legally provide certain information to the community.
        MostAwesomeDude: Specifically, anisotropic filtering, S3TC formats, MPEG formats, video decoding, and possibly the various firmware stuff.
        Even anisotropic filtering? OMG
        I hope someone will reverse S3TC for R600 hardware too...
        ## VGA ##
        AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
        Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)

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        • #94
          Originally posted by gordboy View Post
          Dear Michael.

          If you do not ban Vincent from this forum forever, I will have no hesitation in contacting your provider, godaddy, and asking them to pull this site.

          You are clearly unable to control the people here. Make no mistake, allowing that sort of disgraceful CRAP is not only irresponsible, it is also illegal in the US.

          Also, fully expect to be contacted by disabled rights organizations and the FBI if you fail to comply.
          sorry gordboy i don't like your mental-fascism to control people in writing/speaking is like being a Nazi. sure you are one.

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          • #95
            Nobody lolled at my hypothesis? I am dissapoint.
            Anyway Gordshit has no legal ground to stand on whatsoever so whatever...

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            • #96
              Oh for $DEITY's sake. Gordboy threatening legalese and V!ncent being much worse than what got gordboy banned the last time, yet escaping unscathed.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                Nobody lolled at my hypothesis? I am dissapoint.
                Anyway Gordshit has no legal ground to stand on whatsoever so whatever...
                people like gordshit "DanL" try to ban me in the past: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...light=qaridium

                and "DanL" try to hurt me today to:

                DanL:"Don't listen to the Qtroll (I suggest blocking it)."
                http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...lob-late/page2

                and hey.. i give a fuck about people like DanL or Gordshit

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
                  sorry gordboy i don't like your mental-fascism to control people in writing/speaking is like being a Nazi. sure you are one.
                  This


                  Sorry this thread has gone way off track due to the incessant trolling of gordboy, guys. Maybe if gordboy shuts the heck up and let the intelligent people talk it will work out a lot better.

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                  • #99
                    Arrg edit limit.

                    What we all can do is just ignore trollboy. Don't quote or respond to any of his posts and just post about the topic at hand. He'll then get the hint and disappear.

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                    • Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                      Radeon OSS drivers are a funny thing. Those who use them, like them, those who buy from other manufacturers hate them and write about it on the internet
                      Maybe I'm an exception. I use them, I find them lacking, find them slow progressing(as in alarmingly slow), do not understand AMD decisions - but they are open-source.

                      At the same time I look at nvidia, and struggle between opensource+inefficiency and blob+efficiency. Seriously, Im starting to hate BOTH nvidia and amd.

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                      • Originally posted by curaga View Post
                        [...] V!ncent being much worse than what got gordboy banned the last time, yet escaping unscathed.
                        That's maybe because:
                        1. I'm only being an asshole towards the asshole that is an asshole against everybody here, except himself;
                        2. Everybody at these forums asked for mr. Gorden Unfreeman to be banned and nobody, except for Gorden ofcourse, asked for my ban, while also threatning the admin that has banning rights.


                        And about this topic; I think everybody has already thanked the driver devs who read this (and if not massive thanks for your effort) and thus there is little left to talk about, except one single douchebag, so allow us to be entertained.

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                        • Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                          Maybe I'm an exception. I use them, I find them lacking, find them slow progressing(as in alarmingly slow), do not understand AMD decisions - but they are open-source.
                          Yeah. I have higher-end needs out of my GPU. Unfortunately, the proprietary drivers somewhat undermine the point of running a Free OS. Plus they're missing compatibility with newer kernels/X and lack features like KMS which a fair bit of the Free desktop stack is starting to have a hard dependency on.

                          I'm running the NVIDIA binary driver on my new laptop. It's helluva fast (some OpenGL tests are slightly out-performing Windows on the same machine). It's got a higher level of OpenGL support than the Windows drivers that are compatible with this specific video card. But on the other hand I'm fucked if I want to try Wayland or if I even just want a nice bootup experience on Fedora.

                          I can deal with less performance or features than the proprietary drivers offer, but that minimum acceptable level is for me still a good deal above the support offered by the FOSS drivers. And sure I was a little irritated when it took almost a year for my first ATI GPU to be supported.

                          However, given the size of the team and the relative inexperience of many of the FOSS driver developer (as GPU driver developers, not as general developers; they're all great devs) they've done a damn good job. Whatever shortcomings there are in the FOSS stack, it's not due to any fault of the people actually working on them. It's the fault of the all the people _not_ working on them. Which yes, includes me.

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                          • While the Gallium3D driver may not be as fast as the proprietary driver, it is much better behaved in my opinion, particularly with video. I used to have really bad tearing and other artifacts and have none now with R600g.

                            I've seen more good things happen with Linux graphics drivers over the last year than the ten preceding years I've used Linux. Hopefully VDPAU will be implemented in the not too distant future.

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                            • Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
                              And so? It can be delivered as an external library and I can use it because I live in Europe, where's the problem?
                              you are just wrong microsoft won on the fat patent stuff in germany on the highest cord.

                              thats because europe/germany do not have pure software patents but hartware binding software patents.

                              means you can not patent an algorithm but you can patent stuff like FAT32,S3tc and so one.

                              be sure you will lose in germany/europe if you think you can use s3tc free like the opensource means to be free.

                              the only stuff thats helps you is that in europa/germany patentlaw is only for companys and not privat users.

                              means you can use s3tc if you a privat user.

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                              • Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                                Nobody lolled at my hypothesis? I am dissapoint
                                I didn't laugh, and I have an excellent sense of humour (of course). And it's not the first time somebody complains about something you wrote, by the way.

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