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  • #61
    It Was Meant Mainly For Vincent, Actually

    Originally posted by AdrenalineJunky View Post
    really? cause i'm pretty sure this forum is still quite divided, seems every topic i see on the matter has a few people complaining about how horrible AMD is and a few saying they don't have any problems.

    regardless of what you have to say though, you'd probably be much better recieved if you tried some level of respect. calling everyone "stooges" and "teenage thugs" doesn't really impress people.
    Just as soon as the AMD fanboys stop using deeply offensive words like "autistic" and "retarded", I might consider being civil. I am a parent with an autistic son, and I find the language here at times totally unacceptable and offensive.

    But it is not just ignorant language that characterises some of the contributors here. It is less than a year ago that one of them threatened to shoot me dead, right here on this forum. And it was me who was banned for complaining about it. Michael has never addressed this issue. And we all know why.

    So don't lecture me about being civil and respectful. Get your own house in order before you DARE to mouth off about something you know absolutely nothing about.

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    • #62
      Gents which part of <b>" DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS"</b> plate is so hard to understand ..?

      BTW congrats to radeon FOSS driver team. On my crappy x300 mobile FlightGear runs at about 8 FPSaverage at 1440x1050 res. Hell, with res reduced to 800x600 it goes on 16FPS average. And that's without pageflip. I have never seen FlighGear havin more than 3 FPS on average, even on stronger vidcard. It seems later this year this lappy may be even usable for light gaming. LOL.

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      • #63
        Radeon OSS drivers are a funny thing. Those who use them, like them, those who buy from other manufacturers hate them and write about it on the internet

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        • #64
          Originally posted by gordboy View Post
          Just as soon as the AMD fanboys stop using deeply offensive words like "autistic" and "retarded", I might consider being civil. I am a parent with an autistic son, and I find the language here at times totally unacceptable and offensive.

          But it is not just ignorant language that characterises some of the contributors here. It is less than a year ago that one of them threatened to shoot me dead, right here on this forum. And it was me who was banned for complaining about it. Michael has never addressed this issue. And we all know why.

          So don't lecture me about being civil and respectful. Get your own house in order before you DARE to mouth off about something you know absolutely nothing about.
          I personally wouldn't charactarize any portion of my prior post as "mouthing off"

          And if you find their behavior so poor, then i don't see the logic in reciprocating it.

          there will always be people who are rude on the internet, that doesn't mean you have to become one of them.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
            Radeon OSS drivers are a funny thing. Those who use them, like them, those who buy from other manufacturers hate them and write about it on the internet
            Well, I use them but still don't like them They keep disappointing me every couple of days when I try something only to find out it doesn't work.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by RealNC View Post
              Well, I use them but still don't like them They keep disappointing me every couple of days when I try something only to find out it doesn't work.
              You speak that way because you still didn't try Intel drivers. Trust me, radeon is heaven in comparison
              ## VGA ##
              AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
              Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)

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              • #67
                Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
                You speak that way because you still didn't try Intel drivers. Trust me, radeon is heaven in comparison
                Yeah, I've got a taste of Intel drivers when trying to install Ubuntu on a friend's laptop. It ran like crap (after installing latest drivers from a PPA, it didn't run at all without them); he wiped it and went back to Windows XP two days later.

                But still, the radeon driver is still not something I would call a "3D graphics driver." To deserve that name, it actually has to work.

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                • #68
                  BTW someone made my day ...
                  Just look at bottom of the page ....



                  Spot on !!! :thumbs:

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
                    But still, the radeon driver is still not something I would call a "3D graphics driver." To deserve that name, it actually has to work.
                    You should have stable and accelerated OpenGL 2.1. So there's probably something trivial going wrong.

                    If you provide more info, we'll probably get it working. You can use the Gentoo forum if you want, there is a long thread about Radeon drivers.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                      You should have stable and accelerated OpenGL 2.1. So there's probably something trivial going wrong.

                      If you provide more info, we'll probably get it working. You can use the Gentoo forum if you want, there is a long thread about Radeon drivers.
                      Well, for starters I can't enable 3D acceleration in VMWare. It crashes with r600c and doesn't work with r600g due to missing S3TC.

                      Another issue is that most games run slow. Windows games in Wine barely run at all.

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                      • #71
                        I'd argue that VMWare is a very special use-case. It's annoying to you personally, but this doesn't mean that the drivers don't work.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                          I'd argue that VMWare is a very special use-case. It's annoying to you personally, but this doesn't mean that the drivers don't work.
                          VMWare uses OpenGL, so I don't see how it's a special use-case. If the driver doesn't support OpenGL correctly, then it's clearly not ready yet since the purpose is to run OpenGL apps with it.

                          Are you going to turn all bugs into "special use-cases?"

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Xeno View Post
                            BTW someone made my day ...
                            Just look at bottom of the page ....



                            Spot on !!! :thumbs:
                            Adding tags is a consolidated tradition every time gordboy starts a new flame. I suggest you having a look at the Release The Driver, Or Step Aside thread: I'm sure you will enjoy it

                            Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                            I'd argue that VMWare is a very special use-case. It's annoying to you personally, but this doesn't mean that the drivers don't work.
                            Do you call S3TC a special use case?
                            How long since R600g will gain full S3TC support via libtxc_dxtn.so like R300g?
                            I love the radeon driver too, but I have to admit we are far from an usable driver.
                            ## VGA ##
                            AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
                            Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by gordboy View Post
                              Anyways, the reason for the repeated complaints is the repeated FAILURE to deliver a properly working graphics driver stack for ATI cards. I'm not just talking about performance. I'm talking about basic functionality being broken.
                              Failure to deliver yet as it has not been delivered yet because Gallium is at version 0,4, bein less than 1,0.

                              The fact that Michael is bewitched by these charlatans and snake-oil merchants, is sad enough.
                              That's your opinion.

                              Does anyone here actually care about linux ?
                              No we don't; that's why we hang around a Linux review website. I hope you sense my sarcasm here, given that you are not autistic.

                              Or are you happy to be unpaid stooges for a sordid corporate strategy whose inevitable endgame is the attempted final destruction of linux itself ?
                              Unpaid? Am I unpaid? Since when did my salary stop?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by darkbasic View Post
                                Do you call S3TC a special use case?
                                No, I call it patented technology. It's commonly used, unfortunately.

                                How long since R600g will gain full S3TC support via libtxc_dxtn.so like R300g?
                                As soon as somebody reverse-engineers it for r600 hardware.

                                The library itself is not the problem.

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