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  • #16
    Originally posted by curaga View Post
    The cpu wasn't much better than the compared Atom, and it lost to a test unit of the Nano dual core.
    The Nano did use a lot more power and had a 200MHz clock advantage though. The great advantage of Brazos in in the GPU front.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
      English is an undefined language in a sense that it doesn't have a centralized institute that adds and alters the grammer and words of/to the language. The following sentence is actually correct English:
      "Yo HomeZ i. was @ ur houZ jesturdai."
      Correct according to whom? Does correctness mean anything without a standard to which implementations/sentences must adhere?

      A noteworthy case is the French language: there is a French language institute (don't ask me the name, I can't remember) that defines and decides what is French.

      However, that doesn't mean that ("institute French"?) lines up precisely with what french people actually speak ("populace French"?). If the institute and the populace are in conflict, who is correct?

      What authority does an institute have to define a language? Governments and institutes can be toppled or destroyed (as can the general populace, but it takes much more effort).

      Not meaning to be rude, I just find linguistic discussions interesting (perhaps continuing away from the forum would be an idea, to prevent it going too far O.T.)

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      • #18
        I should point out that I'm delighted by the news of this open-source support. With that said, AMD are causing me a lot of angst at the moment, if they continue with this level of support then I may become *ahem* "0n3 of t3h f4nb0iz!" :-)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
          The following sentence is actually correct English:
          "Yo HomeZ i. was @ ur houZ jesturdai."


          That isn't English, that is ebonics.

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          • #20
            There have been a number of proposals to improve and standardize English over the years -- I read this one when I was a kid :

            http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/meihem.htm

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            • #21
              gain presence on Fusion operating systems.
              Surely you meant to say "gain presence on Fusion hardware"--unless there is a Fusion operating system I was unaware of.

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              • #22
                I really can't wait to hear if these drivers support Gallium3D, and to what degree.

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                • #23
                  I don't think we have tried the Ontario parts with the Gallium3D driver but it should pretty much work the same as any other Evergreen part once the changes are ported across from r600 to r600g.

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                  • #24
                    Considering both AMD and Intel have FOSS drivers, but Intel actually has plans for dedicated unit hw video accel (while AMD has plans not to)..

                    It's of course theoretical until either happens, IIRC Intel doesn't have vaapi support for the Atom gpu yet.

                    @bridgman: are the 80 shaders enough for high-level H.264? For the supposed shader accel.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by curaga View Post
                      @bridgman: are the 80 shaders enough for high-level H.264? For the supposed shader accel.
                      The low end parts are running the GPU shaders at half the speed of the higher end model that everyone has been testing so far. I'd say there's no way that one has enough power, although the full speed parts might.

                      UVD support is looking like the major missing puzzle piece from AMD right now. I don't see how they expect to contend with Ion without it, since these CPUs are exactly the ones which would benefit the most - although maybe they just view the Linux HTPC market as too small to worry about.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                        UVD support is looking like the major missing puzzle piece from AMD right now. I don't see how they expect to contend with Ion without it, since these CPUs are exactly the ones which would benefit the most - although maybe they just view the Linux HTPC market as too small to worry about.
                        Supporting both MeeGo and the "Vision" brand without a correct and decent driver for HW video decoding is not going to be very appealing among users and possible clustomers. That's a sure thing... What a deception.

                        BTW, ION is a dead end. Who wants a 18W GPU where you can get AMD or Intel CPU+GPU solution within the same thermal enveloppe? Besides, the Intel Ironlake performance is on par with ION. Likewise for the Fusion parts, I'd guess.

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                        • #27
                          Interesting... On the AMD Fusion website it shows that Fuseion has a UVD?

                          Spoken language != writen language. The written language is standardized, but greatly influenced by the spoken language, which is defined by the times

                          Language standardization is never done/completed. It's a continues process.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by curaga View Post
                            Considering both AMD and Intel have FOSS drivers, but Intel actually has plans for dedicated unit hw video accel (while AMD has plans not to)..

                            It's of course theoretical until either happens, IIRC Intel doesn't have vaapi support for the Atom gpu yet.
                            That all depends on what you're referring to when you talk about intel gpus.... you referring to intel atom, how about intel atom Z -- your statements about intel are reversed with respect to atom Z, which does NOT have open source driver, but DOES have vaapi.

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                            • #29
                              I'm thinking of the Intel-designed gpus. After all, the Ontario is not competing against Atom Z.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                                Interesting... On the AMD Fusion website it shows that Fuseion has a UVD?
                                It has UVD3, the same version that the new 6xxx series has. The problem is that they don't support using it under Linux, even with their proprietary fglrx driver. Especially not with the OSS ones.

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