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    Phoronix: ATI R600 Gallium3D Driver Continues Advancing

    While most of the open-source Linux graphics drivers are currently in Toulouse for the 2010 X.Org Developers' Summit, David Airlie of Red Hat Australia is not among those in attendance. He, however, is continuing to work on one of his latest efforts in conjunction with AMD: R600g, or the ATI R600/700/Evergreen Gallium3D driver. In the latest batch of Git commits to Mesa there is now a number of new features implemented...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODYwOA

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    AMD please, don't waste your time on classic. People have waited 1 year for Evergreen support, they can wait another 3 months. Focus your efforts on Gallium3D driver and infrastructure. I am sure evergreen owners are willing this, and will be grateful.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Drago View Post
      AMD please, don't waste your time on classic. People have waited 1 year for Evergreen support, they can wait another 3 months. Focus your efforts on Gallium3D driver and infrastructure. I am sure evergreen owners are willing this, and will be grateful.
      I don't really believe they be grateful. Your average Ubuntu user expects his stuff to work and doesn't know much about what Gallium3D is.

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      • #4
        I am talking about 3D experience. 2D should go into next ubuntu, but still that does not relate to Gallium3D.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          I don't really believe they be grateful. Your average Ubuntu user expects his stuff to work and doesn't know much about what Gallium3D is.
          I already said this once: Ubuntu 10.10 users won't get really-working Evergreen support anyway. And as for 11.04 I believe we will get r600g working.

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          • #6
            damn, i'm so eager for news like "negative diversity between r600g and r300g ended, time for positive one". that will be the day i finally will add "gallium" use-flag on my main box and hopefully forget about "classic" stuff.

            the better only could be "free driver writers decided to not give a fuck about US extortion patents" and "nouveau is as good as r600g now, somehow"...
            because, you know, "Linux" _will_ be "ready for desktop"(c) for sure when cards from trinity of main gpu manufacturers will work fine under proper FOSS software. and, dear Linus, live CDs\USBs\PXEs with full video acceleration support on hw with any cards and their combinations, and without BLOBy hacks ? hell, yeah !

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Drago View Post
              AMD please, don't waste your time on classic. People have waited 1 year for Evergreen support, they can wait another 3 months. Focus your efforts on Gallium3D driver and infrastructure. I am sure evergreen owners are willing this, and will be grateful.
              Well that's not how I see it as an Evergreen owner. I think AMD is doing the right thing fixing up r600c for Evergreen. Evergreen support in r600c is already very mature and relatively fast. Evergreen support in r600g is brand new and it may take a while before it has reached the level and speed of r600c. Maybe 3 months, 6 months, a year, who knows?

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              • #8
                Michael, just some typos:

                While most of the open-source Linux graphics drivers are currently in Toulouse for the 2010 X.Org Developers' Summit
                Well can you get back here into my computer again!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Drago View Post
                  AMD please, don't waste your time on classic. People have waited 1 year for Evergreen support, they can wait another 3 months. Focus your efforts on Gallium3D driver and infrastructure. I am sure evergreen owners are willing this, and will be grateful.
                  As an owner of a laptop with Evergree I couldn't agree more. Closed source drivers work fine enough (if you disable the new 2D accelleration architecture) until the Gallium drivers are ready.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tsiolkovsky View Post
                    As an owner of a laptop with Evergree I couldn't agree more. Closed source drivers work fine enough (if you disable the new 2D accelleration architecture) until the Gallium drivers are ready.
                    As a owner of a laptop with evergreen, I can't agree. I don't care about closed source driver, I have suffered enough from them and I was happy some years ago to get rid of them (if they could just die, that would just seem justice for all the pain it caused).

                    If it i actually nearly ready to work in r600c (I won't know until it's in edgers), then why just wipe it all and restart in r600g ? Better to get it in a good state.

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                    • #11
                      I'm glad that r600g finally took off. It also seems to run my test system just fine, meaning that compiz effects seem to work fine. However, the blitting performance (aka glxgears) is about 1/4 of the classic driver's.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HokTar View Post
                        I'm glad that r600g finally took off. It also seems to run my test system just fine, meaning that compiz effects seem to work fine. However, the blitting performance (aka glxgears) is about 1/4 of the classic driver's.
                        talking about the gallium and classic r600 driver:

                        - are there any graphical corruptions when using compiz(-fusion) ?
                        - how stable is it
                        - most importantly (for me as a desktop and work user): how fast does the fan spin when using the opensource driver compared to the proprietary/closed driver (where it's constantly running at around 22-24%) ?

                        the proprietary driver has greatly improved in the last few months but it still causes me trouble - so if I knew that the open drivers work (somewhat) fine that I could use googleearth, compiz, etc. then I finally could switch

                        many thanks in advance

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                        • #13
                          I also play videos via smplayer, totem, vlc - any problems with those ?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kernelOfTruth View Post
                            - most importantly (for me as a desktop and work user): how fast does the fan spin when using the opensource driver compared to the proprietary/closed driver (where it's constantly running at around 22-24%) ?
                            Nothing to do with 3D (Mesa) code.

                            Originally posted by kernelOfTruth View Post
                            I also play videos via smplayer, totem, vlc - any problems with those ?
                            Nothing to do with 3D (Mesa) code.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kernelOfTruth View Post
                              I also play videos via smplayer, totem, vlc - any problems with those ?
                              I have not noticed any graphical problems with compiz and it did never crash. However, some animations were slow e.g. beam up and burn. The rest was as fast as with the classic - no perceptive speed difference.

                              I have not used it extensively, but I have not yet encountered any stability problems.

                              Power management works for me if I use the profile based version. With the low profile my machine is noticeably cooler, but I have a notebook plus I run Einstein@home, so my fan speed is always maximal. Dynpm won't change my settings, i.e. everything remains maxed out.

                              I tested a simple xvid file with SMPlayer, xv (for radeon) worked fine - no flickering or artifacts.

                              I hope it helps.

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