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  • #46
    Originally posted by gordboy View Post
    If it were me running things, this thread would not exist. And I certainly wouldn't consider deliberately withholding releases "just to fuck with this guy".

    It sounds to me like you are a clueless n00b who thinks that a mark of expertese is the ability to use automake/autoconf/whatever when they are not even a developer.

    Real linux users do not download git source. They do not download nightly source. They don't actually compile anything, EXCEPT THEIR OWN PROJECTS.

    They use packages supplied by their distros, and this in turn, means that there have to be RELEASES to actually package.

    Anyone who cannot see this needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.

    BTW, this is getting too easy. I am single-handedly demolishing everyone one of you so-called experts, and leaving you looking like the n00b, lamer-gamer-ricer children that you are.

    NEXT !
    Dude really? real linux users dont git? LOL, Errrm maybe you mean ex windows kid users dont ...!.

    first of all, you are the kind of useless leech that sometimes make devs think twice to come to the OSS world, have you ever used your pc for anything else than download porn? you even know what a git is? you think develop a low level C/ASM project is like use visual basic?.

    i dont doubt for a second that another retarded underage kids without any sort of real knowledge about development back you up. what i can say for sure for the ppl that at least try to read the code and see if the can do something USEFUL dont want crap like you here. michael plz when you have a time ban this mofo plz.

    now to answer your first question, the driver will be released when airlied and bridgman and other really fine developers agree that the code is good enough to be released NOT WHEN SOME GOOD FOR NOTHING THINK IT SHOULD BE. beside you think they only work on the DDX for real? so you dont care about mesa or kms or drm or gallium wich actually are more needed than the ddx.

    and by last little genius all the code is heavily tied to the current kernel KMS module (did you bother in read the code at least?), so you need at least a kernel 2.6.33 or .34 to take advantage ofall good stuff in the new DDX and for now most unstable distros are keeping a backported KMS in a 2.6.32 kernel branch so even if the driver releases you will probably get a lot of issues with those kernels especially with ubuntu, so for you a real linux user who dont git, dont compile kernel and all geeky stuff, have fun morron

    and well for the obviuos you knew that beside the projects timeframe, distros have 1 too? (i know must be hard for you to understand) so if you use ubuntu for example you will have to wait until 10.10 branch is open to get a cute package of the ddx 6.13 or use PPA packages wich arent as tested as the cutie one from your distro.

    go to study, get over puberty, go college, get a girl, read the ddx code and then when you realize how extremely hard is to develop this kind of code, then and only then you can come here and post.

    if you dont like it, you have 3 options
    1. drop dead somewhere, really nobody here care if you do
    2. use fglrx
    3. use windows 7 or MAC os X (this one is prefered)
    4. any other option read below

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    • #47
      Everyone ignore this troll

      If you don't know this, he with the most code wins in oss. Period.

      Don't like the current development model or the current developers - download the code, fork it and show everyone you're right. Otherwise shut up or play nice.

      I don't see a single post on this thread or your prior one supporting your viewpoint so I can only assume you're the only one with the issue and considering that none of your posts have been deleted don't claim there is an effort to silence your supporters or some other nonsense.

      Btw, I have nothing but the utmost respect for the current devs and feel that they are progressing at a reasonable rate considering the real technical challenges they face.

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      • #48
        Michael,

        Could you please lock and delete this thread and ban Gordboy?

        By his own words his intent is take appart people's credibility. He also is after destabelizing development of the driver.

        Please get us rid of this guy and his practises because it harms.

        Thanks in advance.

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        • #49
          Oh, I think gordboy's contributions to Phoronix forums are noteworthy. His posts provide comic relief during cold and rainy days in Seattle. However, with the amount of time he has spent posting in the forums he could have packaged his own 6.13 and upgraded all his systems.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by gordboy View Post
            I am going to keep asking this question, regular as clockwork, on the last day of each and every month, until the long-overdue and promised 6.13 driver is released :

            When are you going to release that driver guys ?

            Please don't add to your already bad reputation by saying "when it is ready".

            What is the feedback from RC2 ?
            Will there be an RC3 ?

            Your excuse that you will not be "held to ransom" by timetables is wearing mighty thin. If you have time to piss around with other projects ("displacement activity"), then you have time to Do The Right Thing.

            This is directly to the developers and no-one else. I am sick fed up of people sticking in their tuppence and airing their irrelevant views. And as for the violent nutjobs, well the least said about them the better ...

            are you paying any one of them?

            if not: shut up. Because you don't have a right to anything.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
              Michael,

              Could you please lock and delete this thread and ban Gordboy?

              By his own words his intent is take appart people's credibility. He also is after destabelizing development of the driver.

              Please get us rid of this guy and his practises because it harms.

              Thanks in advance.
              Amen. This dead horse been beaten too many times. Think he's been warned already by Michael. Next troll thread he's out

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              • #52
                I doubt that it's the release schedule of the driver at fault for gordboy's flaming streak. He probably has other quarrels with the devs. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

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                • #53
                  I agree with V!NCENT's post. Lock/ban please, trolls make the forum harder to read.

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                  • #54
                    In The Interests Of Brevity ...

                    Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                    Dude really? real linux users dont git? LOL, Errrm maybe you mean ex windows kid users dont ...!.

                    first of all, you are the kind of useless leech that sometimes make devs think twice to come to the OSS world, have you ever used your pc for anything else than download porn? you even know what a git is? you think develop a low level C/ASM project is like use visual basic?.

                    i dont doubt for a second that another retarded underage kids without any sort of real knowledge about development back you up. what i can say for sure for the ppl that at least try to read the code and see if the can do something USEFUL dont want crap like you here. michael plz when you have a time ban this mofo plz.

                    now to answer your first question, the driver will be released when airlied and bridgman and other really fine developers agree that the code is good enough to be released NOT WHEN SOME GOOD FOR NOTHING THINK IT SHOULD BE. beside you think they only work on the DDX for real? so you dont care about mesa or kms or drm or gallium wich actually are more needed than the ddx.

                    and by last little genius all the code is heavily tied to the current kernel KMS module (did you bother in read the code at least?), so you need at least a kernel 2.6.33 or .34 to take advantage ofall good stuff in the new DDX and for now most unstable distros are keeping a backported KMS in a 2.6.32 kernel branch so even if the driver releases you will probably get a lot of issues with those kernels especially with ubuntu, so for you a real linux user who dont git, dont compile kernel and all geeky stuff, have fun morron

                    and well for the obviuos you knew that beside the projects timeframe, distros have 1 too? (i know must be hard for you to understand) so if you use ubuntu for example you will have to wait until 10.10 branch is open to get a cute package of the ddx 6.13 or use PPA packages wich arent as tested as the cutie one from your distro.

                    go to study, get over puberty, go college, get a girl, read the ddx code and then when you realize how extremely hard is to develop this kind of code, then and only then you can come here and post.

                    if you dont like it, you have 3 options
                    1. drop dead somewhere, really nobody here care if you do
                    2. use fglrx
                    3. use windows 7 or MAC os X (this one is prefered)
                    4. any other option read below
                    Where do I start ? Well let's take your points one by one.

                    You may imagine that l33t users use git and "ex windows kid users" don't. Well you are wrong. The fact is that serious computer users do not have time to mess around. Packaged means things are easier to admin. I'm not talking about throwaway systems used primarily for learning, I'm talking about multiple deployment.

                    Second para. I am a developer of some 30 years. So don't start your ridiculous CRAP with me.

                    Third para. I now have many many people backing me up in PM here and on irc. So I think you can forget about your ban. If anyone needs temporarily banned it is people like you who use immoderate language to punctuate misguided and offensive drivel.

                    Fourth para. You are not a developer, so I have no idea why you are answering for them. Again more insults.

                    Fifth para. You are misquoting the developers. Again more unwanted and unneeded insults. And BTW, the spelling is "moron".

                    Sixth para. I have been managing debian and latterly ubuntu systems for some years now, so I think I have some idea about timeframes.

                    Seventh para. I have two sons who I *bet* are older than you. I have already been to University, and so have my sons. I occasionally *teach* at University. So don't start trying to tell me anything.

                    As for your 4 options, I think I will just ignore them. You are an offensive muppet, and you have seriously let yourself down. The developers can speak for themselves, they do not need a self-appointed "expert" like you.

                    The level of debate here seriously needs to improve. I'm not going to bother answering any more rubbish from the children.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by gordboy View Post
                      The level of debate here seriously needs to improve. I'm not going to bother answering any more rubbish from the children.
                      Debates != hostile take over attempts
                      Complaining != debate
                      Flaiming people != debate
                      Excluding whoever you do not like != debate

                      There is no debate here. There is no advertised service that you paid for that you can complain/demand about.

                      Of course if you bought a product in a store and it doesn't work as advertised you can go back to people who get paid to be nice and you can demand, even when it makes one an asshole.

                      But this is not the place. Here you have a community. If someone starts to kick the unwritten rules in the balls, one can explain to get flaimed. There is something called being social.

                      You might have studied something at university, but you clearly haven't studied anything about social activity.

                      In kindergarden, when a group kids make something out of cardboard and verve, you can't command these kids to do it your way, especially when you ŕe just jumping in and aren't doing anything. Your social skills are thus even below that one of a child.

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                      • #56
                        Banned For Being Repeatedly Insulted ?

                        Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
                        Amen. This dead horse been beaten too many times. Think he's been warned already by Michael. Next troll thread he's out
                        Says you ?

                        Most people who read this and the previous two threads will see that the insults and stupidity are almost entirely from one side. When I use the word "children", I use it advisedly, because it is a childish thing to try to bully people.

                        It is also childish to call for bans when there is no basis to do so. Responding to the lame insults here is not a bannable offence, or at least it shouldn't be. Nobody asked anyone in this thread to speak for the developers, in any case.

                        If Michael does ban, then he will have succumbed to a baying pack of bullies, who frankly, do not seem to have a clue what they are talking about. And as already been pointed out, there are far worse threads than this.

                        Does anyone here *seriously* think that comments and questions here can "destabilise" the development process ? Or is this more about childish idol worship and a refusal to grow up ?

                        If you don't want to be humbled by responses to your lame BS, then don't post. It's that simple.

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                        • #57
                          Wake Up Vincent

                          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                          Debates != hostile take over attempts
                          Complaining != debate
                          Flaiming people != debate
                          Excluding whoever you do not like != debate

                          There is no debate here. There is no advertised service that you paid for that you can complain/demand about.

                          Of course if you bought a product in a store and it doesn't work as advertised you can go back to people who get paid to be nice and you can demand, even when it makes one an asshole.

                          But this is not the place. Here you have a community. If someone starts to kick the unwritten rules in the balls, one can explain to get flaimed. There is something called being social.

                          You might have studied something at university, but you clearly haven't studied anything about social activity.

                          In kindergarden, when a group kids make something out of cardboard and verve, you can't command these kids to do it your way, especially when you ŕe just jumping in and aren't doing anything. Your social skills are thus even below that one of a child.
                          So you speak for everyone do you ? Yet more insults and stupidity from a self-appointed muppet.

                          Vincent, nobody asked you to post in this thread. The fact that you have done so repeatedly shows how ignorant you are.

                          Anyone else going to keep up this charade ?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by gordboy View Post
                            So you speak for everyone do you ?
                            No; I am trying to explain something to you. I try to make you see how to do it in such a way that you can have more succes in convincing people to get on your side. I believe you want to convince people to follow your vision on development, which is a charactaristic of an actual debate; convincing others to agree with you and not demanding everybody to agree with you.

                            Vincent, nobody asked you to post in this thread. The fact that you have done so repeatedly shows how ignorant you are.
                            I believe that there are a lot of people who do not like your posts, so regardless of whether I was being asked by anyone to post here; you are being asked to do so even less.

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                            • #59
                              I agree with most people in this thread. Unfortunately, it seems, your blinded by your own ego. :/

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                              • #60
                                Any Adults Here, Apart From Me ?

                                Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                                No; I am trying to explain something to you. I try to make you see how to do it in such a way that you can have more succes in convincing people to get on your side. I believe you want to convince people to follow your vision on development, which is a charactaristic of an actual debate; convincing others to agree with you and not demanding everybody to agree with you.


                                I believe that there are a lot of people who do not like your posts, so regardless of whether I was being asked by anyone to post here; you are being asked to do so even less.
                                Bullshit from beginning to end.

                                You are not trying to explain anything. You have been calling for bans, and frankly, you are pissing in the wind.

                                The vast majority of this thread has been insults directed at me, and my responses. So you can realistically forget about any kind of ban.

                                The only people who don't like me here are the tardy developers and their hapless pack of worthless worshippers. The same usual suspects who post all the time and clog up these forums with their inane drivel.

                                I dare say you will continue this. But if you will permit me to give *you* some advice - please take the insults and unwarranted "friendly" advice elsewhere.

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