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  • #21
    Originally posted by tormod View Post
    I run Ubuntu 9.10 + the xorg-edgers lucid PPA which has mesa 7.8 and xserver 1.8. I can not recommend to mix lucid/karmic packages, but just to give you some bad ideas to try out
    Yeah it runs fantastic, thanks for maintaining the xorg-edgers PPA!

    I am one of those that supports the fglrx whenever people moan about it, but even I really don't want to use that piece of blob anymore, because the overall desktop experience is so much better with the opensource stack *already*.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by tormod View Post
      I run Ubuntu 9.10 + the xorg-edgers lucid PPA which has mesa 7.8 and xserver 1.8. I can not recommend to mix lucid/karmic packages, but just to give you some bad ideas to try out
      Is there any reason why the xorg-edgers ppa for Karmic is tracking mesa-7.7, and not master? I thought the whole purpose of the ppa was to get bleeding edge code... Now I went back to compiling mesa myself.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by monraaf View Post
        Is there any reason why the xorg-edgers ppa for Karmic is tracking mesa-7.7, and not master? I thought the whole purpose of the ppa was to get bleeding edge code... Now I went back to compiling mesa myself.
        To get the bleeding edge it is better to run Lucid anyway. Currently I think it is nice to provide all three 7.6, 7.7 and 7.8 branches for various testing, especially since the 7.8 packages works fine in Karmic as well. Once stock Lucid provides 7.7, we might consider 7.8 in the Karmic PPA.

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        • #24
          fglrx vs radeon

          yes its true... i Delete fglrx and install radeon xorg-edgers..

          Yes its true Radeon is the better one!


          OpenArena and Warzone2100 and Chromium Rocks like hell on Radeon :-)

          Compiz runs faster on 3D (Compiz) than Fglrx renders a textfile in an textbrowser in 2D desktop modus...

          Xv works well play Movies makes fun on the radeon ....

          and the best.. right now no Crashes,.... FGLRX is crap a piece of shit...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
            right now no Crashes,.... FGLRX is crap a piece of shit...
            amen to that

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            • #26
              what level of 3d features are the open source drivers up to these days?

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              • #27
                Well I don't understand why everyone is after fglrx... Actually I don't think its that bad :| The only real problem I have, is running the newest 3d application through wine.

                That said, I think radeon is better than fglrx. Ofcourse

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                • #28
                  what level of 3d features are the open source drivers up to these days?
                  OpenGL 1.5. Still missing GLSL for OpenGL 2+.

                  GLSL is implemented and works partially, but is still experimental.

                  Not all the stuff/games works, but it's perfect for desktop effects and many games run perfectly here.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
                    OpenGL 1.5. Still missing GLSL for OpenGL 2+.

                    GLSL is implemented and works partially, but is still experimental.

                    Not all the stuff/games works, but it's perfect for desktop effects and many games run perfectly here.
                    Does Quake4 run? Not sure what level of GLSL that requires. If that runs, I might consider looking into the radeon drivers (not that I could use them "full time", as I need opengl 3.x for my own programming).

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                    • #30
                      Much seen problem is lacking s3tc (dxtn) support in drivers above r300.

                      on r600 you must disable s3tc in driconf explicitly, for the detection to work properly with games like spring RTS, and ut2004 demo

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