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  • #31
    why should ati/amd include libs when they don't plan to use them?

    maybe you just need to be patient?

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    • #32
      Hoping for a fix

      Originally posted by tuxdriver View Post
      * Install the latest version of MPC-HC (1.3.x),open the preferences window and enable the H.264/VC1 DXVA decoders.
      * Use the default renderer (Overlay Mixer) to minimize CPU usage
      The CPU load is very low (2% ~ 10% on a 2GHz single core box)

      I'm trying to get this to work, but i can't find any "preferences", do you mean "options" (and then "output") in the "view" column?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by doghearthalo View Post
        I'm trying to get this to work, but i can't find any "preferences", do you mean "options" (and then "output") in the "view" column?


        and




        On XP you has to use VMR or Overlay Mixer an on Vidta and Windows 7 EVR

        And this Link is very helpful http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watc...os-using-dxva/
        Last edited by Nille; 10-05-2009, 07:35 PM.

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        • #34
          [QUOTE And this Link is very helpful http://nunnally.ahmygoddess.net/watc...os-using-dxva/[/QUOTE]

          Thank you. The file i'm having trouble with is "Big Buck Bunny" ( http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/ ). The file h264 1080p plays poorly on MPC and VLC, with cpu at max. The avi (1080p) msmp4 version plays fine on VLC (but with cpu on about 70%), but on MPC the screen is just black.

          The elephants dream file plays well on MPC with cpu at about 10%.

          How to get the msmp4.avi file to play on MPC ?

          I will download the mp4 version and see if it will play on MPC.
          Last edited by doghearthalo; 10-06-2009, 12:41 PM.

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          • #35
            "I will download the mp4 version and see if it will play on MPC"

            This will not play on MPC either...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Nille View Post

              On XP you has to use VMR or Overlay Mixer an on Vista and Windows 7 EVR
              Not true.

              All renderers work under Windows XP: VMR7, VMR9, Overlay Mixer and even EVR. To enable EVR, you'll have to install .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 first.

              Overlay Mixer is so fast it's funny. If you disable the audio output (use the null audio renderer), CPU usage during playback of Big Buck Bunny, Elephants Dream or the Sahara clip drops down to 0% on a 2GHz single core box
              Last edited by tuxdriver; 10-07-2009, 11:19 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tuxdriver View Post
                the CPU usage during playback of Big Buck Bunny, Elephants Dream or the Sahara clip is 0% on a 2GHz single core box

                So which of the Big Buck Bunny files do you play?

                And about the DXVAChecker - under decoder device MPC don't show up, and not any of the other video programs either.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by doghearthalo View Post
                  So which of the Big Buck Bunny files do you play?
                  This one:

                  http://showcase7.divx.com/BigBuckBunny[DivX7].mkv

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                  • #39
                    Alright

                    Originally posted by tuxdriver View Post

                    That version plays just fine :-) Cpu on 10-20% load, but it's only an old Sempron 1.6 ghz.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by doghearthalo View Post
                      That version plays just fine :-) Cpu on 10-20% load, but it's only an old Sempron 1.6 ghz.
                      Just for giggles, I also tried that video on an old, dog slow AthlonXP box (1.9 GHz) with an AGP RadeonHD card. CPU usage varies between 0% and 4% (with sound disabled) even when using the EVR renderer with the highest possible quality settings.

                      ATI cards currently support decoding of H.264 streams only up to L5.0. Non-standard formats (i.e. L5.0 High with a very high number of reference frames) are not supported. L5.1 is supported only on NVIDIA cards.

                      For example, the camera video (a 40Mbps L5.0 Baseline H.264 stream) plays back perfectly with a CPU load of 4%~7%.

                      The other version of the Big Buck Bumble video (9.5Mbps H.264 @ L4.1 Main) works as well. Despite the higher bitrate, this video uses less CPU resources and looks worse than the one from DIVX.com.

                      P.S. I've updated the DXVA guide with more info. Here's a direct link to the post: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=27
                      Last edited by tuxdriver; 10-07-2009, 04:41 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by yoshi314
                        i haven't [yet] come across files that mplayer-mt cannot handle on a pretty low end dual core amd64 (ath64 x2 3800+)
                        Here's a good stress test for your CPU: http://fs7.www.ex.ua/get/205576/Plan...80p_sample.mkv (19Mbps H.264 @ L5.1/High 1080p24)
                        Last edited by tuxdriver; 10-07-2009, 11:49 AM.

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                        • #42
                          No good test as you don't see anybody speeking to check a/v sync.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Kano View Post
                            No good test as you don't see anybody speeking to check a/v sync.
                            Oops! Wrong quote (fixed). That reply was for yoshi314

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                            • #44
                              Adobe and AMD announce Flash Video acceleration on the GPU for Windows and Linux
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                              Yesterday when Adobe announced its Flash Player 10.1 that'll be coming down the pipe, Nvidia was among the first to chime in saying that its GPUs will be able to accelerate Flash video with GeForce and Ion.

                              AMD's informed us that it plans to support Adobe Flash Player 10.1 at the same level and in step with the beta release later this year.

                              "AMD is committed to making the video usage scenario -- playback, editing and transcoding -- a focal point for AMD platform innovation, smartly using the full CPU + GPU assets of our platform to enrich and accelerate the experience,"

                              At the Adobe MAX event in Los Angeles, Adobe demonstrated a private alpha of Flash Player 10.1 that is supported by the ATI Radeon HD 5800.

                              Both Adobe and AMD worked with the DirectX 11 API's compute shader and ATI Stream / OpenCL technology to accelerate Flash performance with the GPU.
                              Last edited by tuxdriver; 10-07-2009, 04:38 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tuxdriver View Post
                                "AMD is committed to making the video usage scenario -- playback, editing and transcoding -- a focal point for AMD platform innovation, smartly using the full CPU + GPU assets of our platform to enrich and accelerate the experience,"

                                At the Adobe MAX event in Los Angeles, Adobe demonstrated a private alpha of Flash Player 10.1 that is supported by the ATI Radeon HD 5800.

                                Both Adobe and AMD worked with the DirectX 11 API's compute shader and ATI Stream / OpenCL technology to accelerate Flash performance with the GPU.
                                Why is this posted in the Open-Source AMD/ATI Linux section? To show that AMD could not care less about free software users even if they made it a priority?

                                I am happy that I now have 3D with my "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3300 Graphics" technology (ab)using Linux 2.6.32-rc3-git1 and radeon git, that's progress, but reading that they are now funding development of propietary software together with the evil Adobe corporation makes me quite sad.

                                Why not throw more moeny at making KMS & the free software radeon driver even better, eh? That would make any flash player better, including the free software gnash player I (ab)use work more smoothly.

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