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    ok, I have a visiontek radeon hd 2600 agp and I cannot get it to work properly, I can get it to show my desktop with vesa, and the radeon driver, but I cannot get it to draw anything accelerated, and certainly can't get it to do any desktop effects. as it is now the desktop on the computer with this problem is so slow it's nearly useless.

    I have tried a number of things and my latest round of head banging has been centered around trying to use the radeonhd driver, thinking that might work where others have failed.

    at this moment my xorg.conf looks like this:
    Code:
    Section "Device"
            Identifier      "RadeonX"
    
    #        Driver   "vesa"
    #        Driver   "ati"
    #        Driver   "radeon"
            Driver   "radeonhd"
    
            Option   "DRI"
    #        Option   "AccelMethod"  "XAA"
            Option   "AccelMethod"  "EXA"
    #       BusID           "PCI:3:0:0"
    EndSection
    
    #Section "module"
    #       Load    "glx"
    #EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
            Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
            Identifier      "Default Screen"
            Monitor         "Generic Monitor"
            Device          "RadeonX"
            SubSection "Display"
                    Depth   24
                   Modes   "1024x768"
            EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
            Identifier      "Default Layout"
            Screen          "Default Screen"
    EndSection
    
    #Section "Extensions"
    #       Option "Composite" "Enable"
    #EndSection
    
    Section "DRI"
            Mode         0666
    EndSection
    any help at all would be appreciated.

  • #2
    Acceleration depends heavily on the drm driver. Did you build the drm yourself or are you using the one in the kernel ? If you are using the drm driver in the kernel you need 2.6.30 or higher, or a distro like Ubuntu 9.04 which backported 6xx/7xx 2D drm support to an earlier kernel.

    Can you please pastebin your xorg log ?

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    • #3
      sorry, I could have sworn I mentioned I was using kubuntu 9.04, but I guess I didn't, probably a useful thing to know. it is a fairly fresh install, but I've been doing a lot to it to try and get this working (I'm not opposed to reinstalling as I don't have much invested in this system yet)

      honestly, I don't remember which specific driver I ended up with most recently that has sort of been working. I believe I am using the self built driver right now, I'm fairly sure I got to the point I am right now by purging all drivers I had and then following the instructions here (also how I ended up here)

      here is my Xorg.0.log
      http://pastebin.com/m169636a2

      I think I've managed to partially fix part of my problem, I think I've got some sort of direct rendering working, because it's no longer so slow that it's hard to use the computer, but I still can't get desktop effects and video is a lot better than it was but not to the point I can actually watch something for the entertainment value of it.

      I have changed my conf since my last post, I'll try to stop being a moving target now that I have someone's attention

      Code:
      Section "Device"
              Identifier      "RadeonX"
              Driver          "radeonhd"
              Option   "DRI"
      #        Option   "AccelMethod"  "EXA"
              Option          "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
              BusID           "PCI:3:0:0"
      EndSection
      
      Section "Monitor"
              Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
              Option          "DPMS"
      EndSection
      
      Section "Screen"
              Identifier      "Default Screen"
              Device          "RadeonX"
              Monitor         "Generic Monitor"
              DefaultDepth    24
              SubSection "Display"
                      Depth           24
              EndSubSection
      EndSection
      
      Section "DRI"
              Mode 0666
      EndSection
              
      Section "Extensions"
              Option "Composite" "Enable"
      EndSection
      
      Section "ServerLayout"
              Identifier      "Default Layout"
              Screen          "Default Screen"
      EndSection
      
      Section "module"
      	Load	"glx"
      	disable	"dri2"
      EndSection
      one thing I've noticed is particularly WTF is the deal with XAANoOffscreenPixmaps, note the conf and the log are current with each other.

      PS it'd be nice if I could get dual monitors working too, but that is another bridge.
      Last edited by Bobboau; 09-02-2009, 07:56 PM.

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      • #4
        well... I tried installing th 2.6.30 kernel, and I recompiled the driver, now I get no video at all (black screen small amount of purple garbled mess, the cursor is present and works/looks just fine)

        log:
        http://pastebin.com/m15051303

        conf:
        Code:
        Section "Device"
                Identifier      "RadeonX"
                Driver          "radeonhd"
                Option   "DRI"
         #       Option   "AccelMethod"  "EXA"
        	Option          "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
                BusID           "PCI:3:0:0"
        EndSection
        
        Section "Monitor"
                Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
                Option          "DPMS"
        EndSection
        
        Section "Screen"
                Identifier      "Default Screen"
                Device          "RadeonX"
                Monitor         "Generic Monitor"
                DefaultDepth    24
                SubSection "Display"
                        Depth           24
        		Modes		"1024x768"
                EndSubSection
        EndSection
        
        Section "DRI"
                Mode 0666
        EndSection
                
        Section "Extensions"
                Option "Composite" "Enable"
        EndSection
        
        Section "ServerLayout"
                Identifier      "Default Layout"
                Screen          "Default Screen"
        EndSection
        
        #Section "module"
        #	Load	"glx"
        #	Load	"GLcore"
        #	disable	"dri2"
        #EndSection
        any suggestions?

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        • #5
          Ignore all XAA switches, EXA and XAA are mutually exclusive. XAA isn't supported for the new cards anyway, only EXA.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bobboau View Post
            well... I tried installing th 2.6.30 kernel, and I recompiled the driver, now I get no video at all (black screen small amount of purple garbled mess, the cursor is present and works/looks just fine)
            In your bios setup change the AGP Aperture size to 256.

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            • #7
              ok, that sort of fixed the no video thing, except it locks up now a few seconds after the login sound is played. I can still control it via ssh from another computer but I can't do anything directly to the machine. I managed to bring the system activity monitor up before it crashed and it's showing python using 85% cpu, showing active processes from ssh shows X using 93%

              http://pastebin.com/m1e3dccdc
              (the last lines of the log is repeated a billion times I omitted most of this)
              my conf hasn't changed except I uncommented the bit about EXA

              [edit]actually it seems to lock up when I try to do something, I just sat down on it after remotely rebooting it some time ago, and it worked fine until I clicked on the kickoff launcher, then it locked up. it seems trying to launch any kde application locks it down. bringing up the context menu on the desktop is fine, but if I select 'appearance settings' locks up.
              when this happens I can still move the mouse, but it is extremely choppy, nothing else works.
              Last edited by Bobboau; 09-03-2009, 08:44 PM.

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              • #8
                even more interesting, it now does it with the live CD...
                WTF, I chage the bios back and it still does it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bobboau View Post
                  even more interesting, it now does it with the live CD...
                  WTF, I chage the bios back and it still does it.
                  The next thing I would try is using the radeon driver (xf86-video-ati) and in the device section of xorg.conf put -

                  Option "BusType" "PCIE"

                  If it works, but you get a bit of font/graphical corruption you can add

                  Option "AccelDFS" "off"


                  If you really want to continue trying with radeonhd then I think you are going to have to keep trying different things with agp speed/aperture bios settings, 256 sounded like it was better, so maybe start with that and a lower speed.

                  In addition you could load the radeon module with the parameter no_wb=1 and see if that helps.

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                  • #10
                    I'm actualy thinking the card might be bad. like I said, the problem I'm haveing is now showing up when I run the live CD with the vesa driver. and yeah I did undo the changes in my bios to see if that was the problem.

                    I already tried the ati/radeon driver, unless you are talking about a different one than I'm thinking

                    I'll try fiddling with the options you've suggested a little, though this is an AGP model not a PCIE. worst comes to worst the card is defective and I'll have to get a new one. do you have any suggestions in the $100 range that won't have the driver issues this one has had?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bobboau View Post
                      I'm actualy thinking the card might be bad. like I said, the problem I'm haveing is now showing up when I run the live CD with the vesa driver. and yeah I did undo the changes in my bios to see if that was the problem.
                      Ahh, I assumed the live cd would be trying to use radeon.

                      I already tried the ati/radeon driver, unless you are talking about a different one than I'm thinking
                      No that's the one, but try with the BusType PCIE which by not trying to use AGP can help with problems that AGP motherboards/cards have.

                      worst comes to worst the card is defective and I'll have to get a new one.
                      do you have any suggestions in the $100 range that won't have the driver issues this one has had?
                      Not sure really, Some AGP motherboards seem to have more problems than others, the card may not be faulty, but the crash with vesa doesn't sound good. Maybe you could try a different distro CD and see how it goes with that.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bobboau View Post
                        I'll try fiddling with the options you've suggested a little, though this is an AGP model not a PCIE. worst comes to worst the card is defective and I'll have to get a new one. do you have any suggestions in the $100 range that won't have the driver issues this one has had?
                        The BusType option doesn't really refer to the physical bus interface but rather the gart mechanism used by the driver.

                        AGP: motherboard chipset handles GART
                        PCI/PCIE: GPU handles GART

                        Alex

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                        • #13
                          ok, now it's mostly working again, when using the ati driver, the pcie option did help out a lot.
                          and messing with the bios reveals that I can set everything to there highest and it doesn't crash the system (might not be having any effect at all).

                          I still cannot get opengl compositing to work though.

                          my current conf and log
                          http://pastebin.com/m57bec19c

                          it still locks up with the radeonhd driver though

                          unless anyone has any other ideas I'm probably going to leave it like it is for a few months until the hd driver is a little bit more mature.

                          oh, and video is now working well for the most part
                          Last edited by Bobboau; 09-05-2009, 01:56 PM.

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