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  • #31
    How far is this driver from running Heroes of Newerth? Or said in another way, when does this driver support opengl 2.1? Are we gonna wait for galium3d?

    Thx for this great work!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pfanne View Post
      amd notebook cpus suck bigtime
      they still only sell 65nm k8 cpus which eat your battery in no time while beeing hot and beeing waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay slower than intel cpus...
      i've been hoping, that amd would finally release 45nm k10 based cpus but it doesnt seem that way and since im going to buy my notebook in about a month i cant wait for amd..
      second problem is, that for some reason ( i kinda think intel is to blame) no manufacturer sells highquality amd based notebooks... amd notebooks are always the crappy sort...
      shiny display... everything is bending and the notebook looks like crap...
      so im going to most likely buy and intel based notebook with an hd4570 which gives nice 3d performance but doesnt eat too much batterylife...
      Yes, maybe they do suck, but AMD drivers for linux also do suck but we are bying AMD's VCs, don't we. I am writing this from 3 year old Sempron laptop, and have no regrets on it. Thanks, AMD!

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      • #33
        Makes me wonder why they gave up on the Geode... they gave a chunk of the netbook market away to the Via Nano.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ant P. View Post
          Makes me wonder why they gave up on the Geode... they gave a chunk of the netbook market away to the Via Nano.
          Our company is making POS for gas stations, and sold several hundreds of VIA ITX boards past few years. Now are selling Atoms. How pitty that AMD is not on that market.

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          • #35
            When does the appropriate code will be included in the kernel source? Or is it already?
            I currently cannot compile the agd5f branch, it fails somehow :

            root@coyote:/usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core# make
            sh ../scripts/create_linux_pci_lists.sh < ../shared-core/drm_pciids.txt
            make -C /lib/modules/2.6.30.2-vdb/source SUBDIRS=`pwd` DRMSRCDIR=`pwd` modules
            make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-2.6.30.2-vdb »
            CC [M] /usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core/drm_auth.o
            In file included from /usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core/drmP.h:85,
            from /usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core/drm_auth.c:36:
            /usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core/drm_os_linux.h:54: erreur: conflicting types for ‘irqreturn_t’
            include/linux/irqreturn.h:16: erreur: previous declaration of ‘irqreturn_t’ was here
            make[2]: *** [/usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core/drm_auth.o] Erreur 1
            make[1]: *** [_module_/usr/src/CVS/drm/linux-core] Erreur 2
            make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-2.6.30.2-vdb »
            make: *** [modules] Erreur 2
            I don't mind compiling mesa, libdrm or xf86-video-ati from git but I usually prefer to stick to standard kernel sources.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pfanne View Post
              amd notebook cpus suck bigtime
              they still only sell 65nm k8 cpus which eat your battery in no time while
              This isn't exactly true. AMD CPUs actually tend to use less power under load. Unfortunately, most battery benchmarks only test the system at idle which generally isn't really a valid usage scenario.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rvdboom View Post
                When does the appropriate code will be included in the kernel source? Or is it already?
                I currently cannot compile the agd5f branch, it fails somehow
                It currently only builds against kernels <= 2.6.28. I think there are some patches around for newer kernels. I'll provide patches against Linus' kernel once the API is stable.

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                • #38
                  For anyone who's interested, current rumours put Evergreen (The internal codename's not R800 as far as I know) in mid-September. It's a 40nm part so from transistor count alone it should be twice as fast as the first R700 chip.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pfanne View Post
                    amd notebook cpus suck bigtime
                    I think I remember having read that AMD is about to release it's new Notebook-CPUs/Platform. Maybe those'll be better.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Drago View Post
                      Yes, maybe they do suck, but AMD drivers for linux also do suck but we are bying AMD's VCs, don't we. I am writing this from 3 year old Sempron laptop, and have no regrets on it. Thanks, AMD!
                      we buy amd gpus, because we like their new driver politics + the gpus are better than what nvidia has to offer...
                      we buy amd desktop cpus, because these cpus are good (bang for the bug)
                      i dont buy amd mobile cpus because there is nothing good about them...
                      compared to current intel cpus they just cant compete..
                      if they would release new 45nm cpus i'd buy them without much thought, but they dont release them, so i have to stick with intel (and i really dont like intel)

                      Originally posted by agd5f View Post
                      This isn't exactly true. AMD CPUs actually tend to use less power under load. Unfortunately, most battery benchmarks only test the system at idle which generally isn't really a valid usage scenario.
                      i think we can agree if i say, that current 45nm cpus from intel perform better with lower power consumption compared to current k8 65nm cpus from amd...
                      and i mostly look at benchmarks that test battery life while surfing, because thats what you do most of the time..
                      and intel systems usually do better on those.

                      Originally posted by Zhick View Post
                      I think I remember having read that AMD is about to release it's new Notebook-CPUs/Platform. Maybe those'll be better.
                      there were supposed to be preproduction samples on computex, but there werent and i never heard about amds new platform again...
                      i kinda am an amd fanboy but i have to use this notebook for years and so i will buy the best combination available at this point.
                      i already thought about buying a netbook and sell it, when there are some new amd notebooks, but i dont really know if i have that kind of money
                      Last edited by Pfanne; 08-03-2009, 03:43 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tball View Post
                        How far is this driver from running Heroes of Newerth? Or said in another way, when does this driver support opengl 2.1? Are we gonna wait for galium3d?

                        Thx for this great work!
                        HoN support is a long ways off; I can't even get it working on my Intel GPU. There is a texture compression problem (for all OSS drivers), which can be worked around by faking st3c OpenGL extension. But I get a mesa crash once I start a game, however it seems to be specific to Intel since it's crashing in i965 header. And Intel currently has much better 3D support than R600 in Mesa.

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                        • #42
                          way to go AMD / ATI

                          thanks for your continued efforts put on the drivers (KMS, gallium, energy savings, 3D, etc.)

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Zhick View Post
                            I think I remember having read that AMD is about to release it's new Notebook-CPUs/Platform. Maybe those'll be better.
                            The Tigris platform with Caspian 45nm CPU is supposed to be released next month, but from what I've read availability will be restricted to Asia at first, and may not reach US/Europe/rest of world till much later.

                            It's been pretty frustrating to me too - AMD makes the best GPUs but you can't buy a notebook with an AMD CPU, GPU, and top-rank display; they simply don't exist. (Thanks a lot, Intel and your illegal business practices. You suck.) Even with the anti-trust convictions in Asia and Europe, the market hasn't changed.

                            I'm still looking for an AMD-powered 15" notebook with WUXGA LED-backlit display. Seems like I'll be looking for a long time still, unless I find a compatible WUXGA screen to swap into my Puma laptop (which is currently WSXGA+).

                            But back on topic - nice going guys, this is great progress on the drivers.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by rvdboom View Post
                              When does the appropriate code will be included in the kernel source? Or is it already?
                              I currently cannot compile the agd5f branch, it fails somehow :



                              I don't mind compiling mesa, libdrm or xf86-video-ati from git but I usually prefer to stick to standard kernel sources.
                              There is a patch: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showp...&postcount=172

                              You need it for kernel > 2.6.28!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by agd5f View Post
                                Unfortunately, most battery benchmarks only test the system at idle which generally isn't really a valid usage scenario.
                                Well, I think most of the time a CPU is in idle mode. Therefore it is a quite valid benchmark! On Notebooks the performance is not the important part, but battery life is*. If you need performance, you buy a desktop PC (with a lot less problems with cooling, noise aand burned fingers) or do stuff remote on a real numbercruncher.

                                But back to topic:
                                Congratulations! :-)

                                *Especially if people like you and bridgeman and your colleagues taking work away from the CPU with your GPUs (e.g. HD-encoding/decoding)! YOU are killing AMDs CPUs! YOU are killing good arguments for buying a AMD CPU with your uber-graphic-chips that nearly do everything beside cooking coffee and making toast (any chance that this will implemented in R900?)! SHAME ON YOU, you GPU-programmers, builder, architects! I think, this is a hostile takeover from ATi! ;-)

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