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  • NVIDIA's For Mac Games, But Where's Linux?

    Phoronix: NVIDIA's For Mac Games, But Where's Linux?

    As many of you have likely heard, Apple's new MacBook notebooks launched last week and are using NVIDIA graphics instead of the Intel integrated graphics they had been using. With NVIDIA GPUs now appearing on more Apple products with Mac OS X, this graphics company is now encouraging game developers to bring their titles to Mac OS X...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=Njc5OA

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    However, when will NVIDIA begin pushing game developers to support Linux?
    When and if it becomes profitable to do so. Apple is enjoying the benefits of having record adoption rates by the consumer.

    Once games are running on Mac OS X, it's only one more small step to bring the OpenGL game to Linux. If we get any information from NVIDIA, we'll pass it along.
    OpenGL is just one piece of the puzzle. There have been hundreds (if not thousands) of openGL based games that have never been ported to linux or mac. Lack of openGL support has never really been a major reason for not porting games.

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    • #3
      sadly, i don't think that you will get any information from them (point of view based on past events)...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
        When and if it becomes profitable to do so. Apple is enjoying the benefits of having record adoption rates by the consumer.
        What records are you talking about? XD I only heard that apple sold little more PCs with macos than some time ago... I wonder in what way it's profitable to nvidia to support macos - lack of games, tiny market share, but maybe apple paid them?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kraftman View Post
          What records are you talking about? XD I only heard that apple sold little more PCs with macos than some time ago... I wonder in what way it's profitable to nvidia to support macos - lack of games, tiny market share, but maybe apple paid them?

          They just made a big hardware deal. So yes, basically they paid them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kraftman View Post
            What records are you talking about? XD I only heard that apple sold little more PCs with macos than some time ago... I wonder in what way it's profitable to nvidia to support macos - lack of games, tiny market share, but maybe apple paid them?
            Apple is enjoying their ever growing marketshare on the consumer level. Every month you can read about Apple's increasing marketshare on the home front. Apple can provide solid measurable numbers of how many systems out there are being sold and used using their OS, which is not something that the linux community can do. As far as Apple paying them to do so, it is more likely that Nvidia wants to get a griplock on getting their chipsets being used on a market that is showing big growth numbers. Plus Nvidia with their push towards GPU computing also wants to be able to have the first real home platform that will use it extensively (OS X 10.6). They simply want to hitch a ride on the tailcoat of Apple's success.

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            • #7
              This news just makes me a little worried about AMD.

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              • #8
                I don't know.. Maybe it's better just buying a PS3 and a Wii for my gaming needs and forget about PC gaming...

                I can't see a game like GTA 4 ported to Linux in a near future, they won't risk they money porting their games for one more platform unless they have granted payback, and I think Linux community can't give that to them..

                Besides that, the gaming world is SO distant from the freedom we all enjoy in a open source OS..

                Maybe initiatives like Apricot have better results then hoping that the traditional industry of gaming looks for us with a good eye

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by puelocesar View Post
                  I don't know.. Maybe it's better just buying a PS3 and a Wii for my gaming needs and forget about PC gaming...
                  Well you could at least play Force Unleashed that way I suppose.

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                  • #10
                    At least this is one step in the right direction. Besides, look at this way: either the games are going to built against cider (aka winelib) meaning the game will work well in wine, or a native port will be made using openGL, and openGL games usually run better in wine than D3D games.
                    Also, it's not like Crossover doesn't exist. A gaming company could just build their game against plain winelib and getting it working in two platforms with one port.
                    Last edited by superppl; 10-21-2008, 06:57 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by superppl View Post
                      At least this is one step in the right direction. Besides, look at this way: either the games are going to built against cider (aka winelib) meaning the game will work well in wine, or a native port will be made using openGL, and openGL games usually run better in wine than D3D games.
                      Also, it's not like Crossover doesn't exist. A gaming company could just build their game against plain winelib and getting it working in two platforms with one port.
                      Yeah, in part you are right. Spore for example, on the Mac it runs with Cider, and people maneged to get it working on Linux very early

                      The problem is that it run terrible, and with lots of bugs, but still, is better then nothing..

                      Those bastards at transgaming, they took the Wine code and never gave anything back to Wine, now they are earning tons of money from EA with this Cider thingy..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by puelocesar View Post
                        Those bastards at transgaming, they took the Wine code and never gave anything back to Wine, now they are earning tons of money from EA with this Cider thingy..
                        On the same hand though, the wine group could come up with their own solution and offer it free to developers. That would draw away the attention that Cider gets but they have not come up with any such solution.

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                        • #13
                          Having it run on Cider is a step closer, this aids Transgaming in two ways.

                          1. They get premium license dollars from Studios like EA to port to Mac.
                          2. Chances are, the Cider games have better chance of running on Cedega (I surmise, much better chances than even Wine). I bet they'll try to make Cedega into an even better proposition to pay for than Wine.

                          End picture? Wine loses, Transgaming wins.

                          Although as far as I'm concerned though, if it means a step closer for companies to realize the leap to Linux, the better.
                          Last edited by niniendowarrior; 10-22-2008, 01:16 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by niniendowarrior View Post
                            Having it run on Cider is a step closer, this aids Transgaming in two ways.

                            1. They get premium license dollars from Studios like EA to port to Mac.
                            2. Chances are, the Cider games have better chance of running on Cedega (I surmise, much better chances than even Wine). I bet they'll try to make Cedega into an even better proposition to pay for than Wine.

                            End picture? Wine loses, Transgaming wins.

                            Although as far as I'm concerned though, if it means a step closer for companies to realize the leap to Linux, the better.
                            Nah, look at Spore. It runs on Cider, but it doesn't run on Cedega. Indeed, after the effort of many people on the bugs of Spore on wine, now it's possible to play the entire game without great problems.

                            I think Transgaming will just turn their back on Linux as they see Cider gives more money to they

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by puelocesar View Post
                              Nah, look at Spore. It runs on Cider, but it doesn't run on cedega
                              Hey. thats not the truth. The game is official supported by cedega 6.1 and runs smooth afaik.

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