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  • NVIDIA 337.19 Beta Linux GPU Driver Released

    Phoronix: NVIDIA 337.19 Beta Linux GPU Driver Released

    After NVIDIA's 337 Linux driver series has already been in beta with the major new feature being Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell overclocking support, the latest beta has now been released...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTY4MjU

  • #2
    They removed a Linux feature to have parity with Windows (four monitors support). However, Linux driver isn't equal to Windows one. To install or update the driver under Linux I have to run some shitty text installer. When will nvidia provide graphical installation method and ability to easily upgrade the driver? Third party repositories don't count, because it's not nvidia's merit. They have to provide their own repository and an easy way to use it. Otherwise, they're just bunch of stupid hypocrites.

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    • #3
      It is the job of the distributor to properly integrate everything that is part of the distribution. Nvidia's license explicitly allows repackaging the driver to facilitate this. On Arch, installing the Nvidia driver isn't any different than installing open drivers, it's just "pacman -S nvidia" instead of "pacman -S xf86-video-nouveau". I don't see what hypocrisy has anything to do with anything here. Especially when the driver provides its own GL stack that conflicts with mesa, and distros have different ways of dealing with that.

      Even if nvidia were to have their own repo, how exactly would that work? A single repo is impossible, they'd have to have repos for each supported distribution, which would be a huge effort to maintain, and you can be sure there'd always be complaints that a particular distro isn't included. The current situation makes much more sense, Nvidia writes the driver and distros distribute it. That's what they're there for.
      Last edited by Gusar; 05-05-2014, 06:21 PM.

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      • #4
        Fairly boring update, nothing serious get fixed/updated (especially for non quadro users).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tpruzina View Post
          Fairly boring update, nothing serious get fixed/updated (especially for non quadro users).
          I think theyr focus should be on wayland/mir now that they have a EGL driver.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
            They removed a Linux feature to have parity with Windows (four monitors support). However, Linux driver isn't equal to Windows one. To install or update the driver under Linux I have to run some shitty text installer. When will nvidia provide graphical installation method and ability to easily upgrade the driver? Third party repositories don't count, because it's not nvidia's merit. They have to provide their own repository and an easy way to use it. Otherwise, they're just bunch of stupid hypocrites.
            yea, and support each and every distro package management and distro quirks? no, thanks. distros probably do 10x better job than nvidia ever could even if they put all employees on linux packaging

            not to mention having it as part of regular update is much better than shitty executable which would need to be downloaded and installed manually.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
              To install or update the driver under Linux I have to run some shitty text installer. When will nvidia provide graphical installation method and ability to easily upgrade the driver? Third party repositories don't count, because it's not nvidia's merit. They have to provide their own repository and an easy way to use it. Otherwise, they're just bunch of stupid hypocrites.
              You dont sound like a linux user at all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a text installer. Most users should be using the package manager anyway so users like you wont see it anyway.

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              • #8
                What is the state of their Optimus support by now ?
                Do we still have to rely on hacks like Primus or Bumblebee ?
                I whish Valves puts some pressure on them to better support those configurations as well.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                  They removed a Linux feature to have parity with Windows (four monitors support). However, Linux driver isn't equal to Windows one. To install or update the driver under Linux I have to run some shitty text installer. When will nvidia provide graphical installation method and ability to easily upgrade the driver? Third party repositories don't count, because it's not nvidia's merit. They have to provide their own repository and an easy way to use it. Otherwise, they're just bunch of stupid hypocrites.
                  When I install the Nvidia driver, I do "sudo pacman -S nvidia" and I'm done. Don't blame Nvidia, blame the distro.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
                    They removed a Linux feature to have parity with Windows (four monitors support). However, Linux driver isn't equal to Windows one. To install or update the driver under Linux I have to run some shitty text installer. When will nvidia provide graphical installation method and ability to easily upgrade the driver? Third party repositories don't count, because it's not nvidia's merit. They have to provide their own repository and an easy way to use it. Otherwise, they're just bunch of stupid hypocrites.
                    You must run some shitty distro, then.

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                    • #11
                      I don't see the problem with a text installer because if you're running it, there's a good chance that you don't have a working graphical session. And as far as updates go, we are much better served than Windows users who must update the thing manually.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by omer666 View Post
                        I don't see the problem with a text installer because if you're running it, there's a good chance that you don't have a working graphical session. And as far as updates go, we are much better served than Windows users who must update the thing manually.
                        we're no where close to windows...
                        Windows had Geforce experince now wich allow for easy drivers updates, and it installs the 1st driver from windows update if non is installed.

                        I dont agree that distros should do the updates, they are usualy behind on the driver version and take along time to update unless you use a ppa
                        we should have something like GFE that would allow for easy driver updating/installing.

                        PS: this is not just an nvidia issue its linux in general...
                        for example mesa is never updated unless you do a distro upgrade.
                        Last edited by TheSoulz; 05-06-2014, 08:30 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by omer666 View Post
                          I don't see the problem with a text installer because if you're running it, there's a good chance that you don't have a working graphical session. And as far as updates go, we are much better served than Windows users who must update the thing manually.
                          That last part technically isn't true for many distros, where you have to download the .sh file form Nvidia.
                          This was one of my gripes about Ubuntu. Downlaoding the .sh file, stopping X, running the script in a console, and going through a myriad of steps hoping nothing went wrong, like say, wrong kernel headers, lacking dkms, or just booting and finding Ubuntu's patched kernel didn't go well with that particular Nvidia binary.

                          Now as an Arch user, I concur. The latest Nvidia release is a "pacman -Syyu" away, with no additional fuss involved, and if it happens to screw your system, all you need is mount; arch-chroot; cd; pacman; umount; reboot" and you're set. I don't even remember the equivalent process in Ubuntu, despite doing it a few times.

                          TL;DR: Windows users aren't worse off than Linux users wrt. Nvidia, they have Nvidia Update background service, and I believe Win8 updates latest driver in the Market thingy?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheSoulz View Post
                            we're no where close to windows...
                            Windows had Geforce experince now wich allow for easy drivers updates, and it installs the 1st driver from windows update if non is installed.

                            I dont agree that distros should do the updates, they are usualy behind on the driver version and take along time to update unless you use a ppa
                            we should have something like GFE that would allow for easy driver updating/installing.

                            PS: this is not just an nvidia issue its linux in general...
                            for example mesa is never updated unless you do a distro upgrade.
                            It's not Mesa's or NVIDIA fault that your distro has a 6 month release cycle and freezes packages. Just don't use these distros if you don't want frozen packages for 6 months every 6 months. It's not that it would be hard to create a new driver package it's simply that it would be against the release policy of whatever 6 month release cycle distro you are using.
                            Last edited by blackout23; 05-06-2014, 08:50 AM.

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                            • #15
                              lol

                              Originally posted by hrkristian View Post
                              That last part technically isn't true for many distros, where you have to download the .sh file form Nvidia.
                              This was one of my gripes about Ubuntu. Downlaoding the .sh file, stopping X, running the script in a console, and going through a myriad of steps hoping nothing went wrong, like say, wrong kernel headers, lacking dkms, or just booting and finding Ubuntu's patched kernel didn't go well with that particular Nvidia binary.

                              Now as an Arch user, I concur. The latest Nvidia release is a "pacman -Syyu" away, with no additional fuss involved, and if it happens to screw your system, all you need is mount; arch-chroot; cd; pacman; umount; reboot" and you're set. I don't even remember the equivalent process in Ubuntu, despite doing it a few times.

                              TL;DR: Windows users aren't worse off than Linux users wrt. Nvidia, they have Nvidia Update background service, and I believe Win8 updates latest driver in the Market thingy?

                              ubuntu here with nvidia-prime. everething working with graphical install. if we want beta drivers we have everething in xorg edgers but ok if you want to install with .sh is your problem

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