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  • #16
    Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
    but as stated above, this is a low priority legal thing, so we might never get it in the OSS driver, while it is no legal problem at all to deliver UVD in the blob.
    Just to be clear we're talking about two separate issues here. Being a lower priority means it takes more calendar time to find out if the *current* solution is regarded as safe for release. If support for early UVDs *never* gets released, that means (a) current solution fails and (b) we are not able to come up with a solution which *is* deemed acceptable.

    I don't think it likely that the current solution will never get reviewed, which is what your statement implies.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bridgman View Post
      Just to be clear we're talking about two separate issues here. Being a lower priority means it takes more calendar time to find out if the *current* solution is regarded as safe for release. If support for early UVDs *never* gets released, that means (a) current solution fails and (b) we are not able to come up with a solution which *is* deemed acceptable.

      I don't think it likely that the current solution will never get reviewed, which is what your statement implies.
      You are right, I should have stated that different. Some questions:
      - If early UVD leagl review is low priority, does it have even started? If not, when can we expect the review process to be started? Will we be noticed?
      - Hypothetically, if the legal review comes to the conclusion that early UVD can't be released, will we ever be informed about that? Or will their be a wall of silence?

      For now, it looks like that AMD just waits until nobody cares anymore, as I stated already, AMD should seriously work on their marketing. Communication seems to be very difficult.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
        You are right, I should have stated that different. Some questions:
        - If early UVD leagl review is low priority, does it have even started? If not, when can we expect the review process to be started? Will we be noticed?
        - Hypothetically, if the legal review comes to the conclusion that early UVD can't be released, will we ever be informed about that? Or will their be a wall of silence?

        For now, it looks like that AMD just waits until nobody cares anymore, as I stated already, AMD should seriously work on their marketing. Communication seems to be very difficult.
        Again, the reviews aren't just "review/release" (more like review/reject/think up new approach/review/reject/think up new approach/review/approve/release), and they're not just legal. The main activity is dragging our top technical people off the projects they're working on so they can spend enough time reviewing the proposed release to determine if it's technically and legally safe.

        Some proposed releases are quick and easy, literally a couple of minutes from each of the leads, but something like support for old UVD (which crosses over pretty much every aspect of DRM and security on a part that was never designed for open source support) requires big chunks of uninterrupted time -- and we used up a lot of their time getting the current UVD and DPM code out.

        If the current approach fails review and we conclude that we won't be able to find an acceptable solution then yes we'll let you know. That said, hopefully I was *really really really* clear from the start of the open source graphics project that you should *not* assume we will be able to release open source UVD support.
        Last edited by bridgman; 01-24-2014, 09:29 AM.

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        • #19
          Stupid edit limit

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bridgman View Post
            The main activity is dragging our top technical people off the projects they're working on so they can spend enough time reviewing the proposed release to determine if it's technically and legally safe.
            Do you have room for one more top technical developer?

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