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  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN: Windows 8.1 vs. Ubuntu 13.10

    Phoronix: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN: Windows 8.1 vs. Ubuntu 13.10

    Last week on Phoronix there was the first Linux review of the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti that also included results from other GeForce GTX 700 GPUs -- including the TITAN -- and earlier Kepler and Fermi GPUs while on the AMD side was a range of Radeon graphics card up to and including the AMD Radeon R9 290. For today's Linux review to kick off a new week of benchmarking is a closer look at the NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN when running Ubuntu Linux and comparing the OpenGL performance to Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro x64.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=19375

  • #2
    Calling the nvidia proprietary driver anything other than mature is an ignorant statement. If you want to buy a graphics card to play modern games on Linux, grab an nvidia one. You'll be highly disappointed with AMD's performance on linux compared to windows.
    In before the FSF brigade bragging about how amazing their barely functioning opensource drivers are.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by peppercats View Post
      In before the FSF brigade bragging about how amazing their barely functioning opensource drivers are.
      Yes, they're amazing and they're much younger than nvidia blob. Does nvidia support KMS and Wayland? Not everyone wants to run closed blobs on his PC while there are Open Source drivers available. I'm using it, because I'm a gamer and this is an only reason.

      It seems Linux is much faster. Just port all windows games to Linux and forget about windows as a gaming platform.

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      • #4
        Awesome work, looking forward to OpenCL benchmarks!

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        • #5
          Damn, I am bit jealous right now. The difference between radeon on Linux and windows differs more than Nvidia cards. I hope AMD will make some good drivers. And it seems that OSS drivers can be much faster than blob, so blob is just temporary benchmark.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by peppercats View Post
            Calling the nvidia proprietary driver anything other than mature is an ignorant statement. If you want to buy a graphics card to play modern games on Linux, grab an nvidia one. You'll be highly disappointed with AMD's performance on linux compared to windows.
            In before the FSF brigade bragging about how amazing their barely functioning opensource drivers are.


            You know that Nouveau driver is faster per Hz than Nvidia's? Also Catalyst cheats alot on windows, less accuracy.

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            • #7
              Great comparison Phoronix. Kudoz!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by peppercats View Post
                In before the FSF brigade bragging about how amazing their barely functioning opensource drivers are.
                Barely functioning?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by artivision View Post
                  You know that Nouveau driver is faster per Hz than Nvidia's? Also Catalyst cheats alot on windows, less accuracy.
                  Cheats how? Catalyst involves a lot of built-in micro-optimizations but so does nvidia. The only difference is it seems the catalyst optimizations are API specific, so with directX not existent on linux, we don't get the extra performance boost.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                    Cheats how? Catalyst involves a lot of built-in micro-optimizations but so does nvidia. The only difference is it seems the catalyst optimizations are API specific, so with directX not existent on linux, we don't get the extra performance boost.
                    One widely-quoted example: R11F_G11F_B10F.

                    In that one, as long as Catalyst AI is enabled, it converts 64-bit or 128-bit floating point textures used by several dx9 games to the 11-11-10 format.
                    This drop in precision is visible in most of them, and done behind the game's back.

                    It also increases the fps some 20% depending on the game, and the quality loss is not easily noticable to many people. Still, this is a prime example of cheating, as the AI is on by default.

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                    • #11
                      Now we need:
                      • Good SLI support on Linux
                      • Overclocking
                      • PhysX
                      • EGL with support for wayland compositors

                      At least the EGL part looks like it might not be a dream forever, since they already added some EGL support.

                      I have used MSI and ASUS GPU Tweak tools on Windows. I always wondered how such a simple application can set the GPU voltage and frequency. It doesn't even require any privileges to do so. What if someone writes a virus that just overvolts the shit out of peoples video cards?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                        Now we need:
                        • Good SLI support on Linux
                        • Overclocking
                        • PhysX
                        • EGL with support for wayland compositors

                        At least the EGL part looks like it might not be a dream forever, since they already added some EGL support.

                        I have used MSI and ASUS GPU Tweak tools on Windows. I always wondered how such a simple application can set the GPU voltage and frequency. It doesn't even require any privileges to do so. What if someone writes a virus that just overvolts the shit out of peoples video cards?
                        Why do we need physx? I'm not aware of any physx titles that were ported to linux.

                        Also, while you still need Windows for this, I personally find it easier to overclock by editing the BIOS. Then you don't need to remember the settings and any drivers you use will work. Most GPUs have several clock settings, each of which can be manually edited, so you don't have to worry about wasting power.

                        I would have to agree that EGL would be nice to have.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                          I have used MSI and ASUS GPU Tweak tools on Windows. I always wondered how such a simple application can set the GPU voltage and frequency. It doesn't even require any privileges to do so. What if someone writes a virus that just overvolts the shit out of peoples video cards?
                          They use NVAPI, an API that NVIDIA licenses to partners to perform precisely those tasks. This way those kinds of operations have to go through their code. They seem to be pretty selective in how they license it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
                            Why do we need physx? I'm not aware of any physx titles that were ported to linux.
                            *cough* Metro:LL *cough*

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                            • #15
                              Wow, so now there is an incentive for nVidia gamers to install Linux instead of Windows.

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