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  • #16
    Originally posted by xtachx View Post
    A working closed driver >>>> broken and unusable opensource ones.
    If you listened to RMSbots you'd believe that broken opensource drivers are better than things that actually work.
    I regret buying my AMD APU laptop all the time.

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    • #17
      Nvidia.... bittersweet

      Ah nvidia... If they open sourced their drivers it would be awesome. It'll never happen though. Why would nvidia want to give AMD a leg up at all? The AMD drivers have always been a joke on Unix and will continue to be a joke. Meanwhile nvidia is getting open source drivers for free through Nouveau, and without having to pay anyone or release API specs to the public! This means legally nvidia is free to conduct business without fear of litigation. What I've been told by a friend who interned at nvidia is that the framebuffer code uses a lot of patented/copyrighted SGI code. So they could never open source the drivers. Nouveau however by being clean room, doesn't have these problems, they are catching up pretty quickly if people bother reading the nouveau website. The 3d functions are already complete, it's just a matter of the power management getting finished. 90% of the card features already work.

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      • #18
        Yes, this is BS, pure and simple.

        NVIDIA has too much to lose in case they open source their drivers.

        CUDA is the first and foremost asset.

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        • #19
          No release because of patents is a lie. You can always not release the patented part, drop it completely, replace it with the open one already exist, and have your own development freedom. There are two kinds on this field: One that will release things like Intel and another that will release when its no other way like AMD and Nvidia. Both categories will act for their own benefit. Those are not our bigger problem, not having standards is: Distros in the past not using Mesa with S3TC or Floating_point_textures with fear for patents (ridiculous). Distros they don't have the latest Kernel and Mesa, Mesa release mode must change. They don't co-develop D3D support, D3D11_state_tracker was abandoned and the newest D3D9_state_tracker isn't supported yet by anyone. We are the stupid ones, not them the bad ones. We use our freedom to have 5 libraries that they do the same and they have a 10% difference. As for Phoronix article writers, add the D3D9_state_tracker to your PPA first and then call Nvidia for support.

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          • #20
            Nvidia are probably going to be having to significant problems over the coming years. Intel's apu's are starting to get good graphics performance now and amd's apu's are just about usable for casual users and will be good when their next chips are out due to 512 shaders instead of 384, faster clock speed and 30% faster cpu. This is going to kill the low end gpu market as onboard graphics in the next gen apu's from intel+amd will be good enough for casual gamers.

            Nvidia isn't in any new consoles unlike amd, their games will be optimised for amd so their desktops gpu's will get an advantage over nvidia in that way.

            Nvidia's tegra chips aren't used by hardly anyone due to power consumption and therefore heat. Nvidia is going to struggle if their arm server chips and ibm+nvidia apu's don't sell well.

            Open sourcing their code would be beneficial i believe as the Steambox project from valve is being announced soon. That uses linux, they could sell quite a lot of gpu's to steambox users, having open source code would help a lot.

            AMD's open source drivers are improving quickly, video and power management will be working nicely in about 2 kernels time. GPU performance is poor on open source and fairly poor on closed source but with steambox coming out i suspect they will put more money into linux drivers.

            AMD have tablet arm chips coming out btw so nvidia is going to have a tougher time selling tegras in tablets.

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            • #21
              And there we have it Necro-lover flat out admitting that he is Q...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BO$$
                The level of hallucinations from the Stallman fanbois in this thread is amazing. Not even LSD with DMT could do that... Nvidia...open source...drivers? Hahahahahahaha I'm on the floor laughing. Open source fanbois think everything revolves around their little world and everybody is dying to become like them.


                1. I am not a Stall-boy, but it is better instead of a (corporation's) fan-boy.
                2. You seem to know a lot about drugs.
                3. They dying (spiritually) because they aren't like them. They killing them actually.
                4. You are not born with (free) mind, you evolve that way. I believe there is room for Linux to teach even if at the beginning you using it without knowing. That's why they afraid of it. They will support it in the future, because they will try to avoid peoples wrath, when a good amount of people knowing.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BO$$
                  Hahahahahahaha I'm on the floor laughing. Open source fanbois think everything revolves around their little world and everybody is dying to become like them.
                  You have been so long in this forum and you still don't get it?

                  "their little world"

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                  • #24
                    Qaridarium power: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQ2NzY

                    All the haters and all the waste of time and all the waste of braincells of the dump closed source fanatics...

                    I think I'm the most advance future analyst in this forum...

                    Don't waste time just ask me what is coming next haha haha LOL

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                    • #25
                      ...
                      I won't play poker texas hold'em with you...
                      never

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                      • #26
                        No. You predicted that nvidia would "opensource there proprietary driver". They show no signs of doing that. But they do begin to release hardware documentation. It's the next best thing, but they don't do what you said they'd do.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
                          No. You predicted that nvidia would "opensource there proprietary driver". They show no signs of doing that. But they do begin to release hardware documentation. It's the next best thing, but they don't do what you said they'd do.
                          the point that englisch is not my native language if i write stuff simple just because i can not go andvance like a native speaker its just what it is: simple englisch.

                          and.. you do a second mistake because they will not stop after this: "begin to release hardware documentation. It's the next best thing"

                          no the next step is that they start to write the driver in the same way : AMD did it in the past.

                          whatever be happy about: "the next best thing" because they will also push some closed source code like AMD did it in the past to speed up the development...

                          so in the end I was right...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Letklia
                            Where can I throw money?


                            put your bitcoins here for me

                            Bitcoin: 1LgVFszAR5BQGKJHmAmyBejJ7PJmWJq7Rm

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by necro-lover View Post
                              They start with: tegra

                              After that they decide if they do more.
                              I bought a tegra device (Nexus 7 2012). Was the first NVIDIA-related device I bought in years, and likely the last. Always hated NVIDIA's proprietary ways. Sold my Nexus 7, and ended up with half of my games being unplayable on my newer, more-powerful tablet, just because it wasn't Tegra.

                              Not throwing my money anywhere near NVIDIA just to be screwed again.

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