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    Phoronix: NVIDIA 304.51 Linux Graphics Driver Released

    NVIDIA has released an updated proprietary Linux graphics driver...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE5MjU

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    Boring updates...

    Without Optimus support the Nvidia chip embedded in my laptop remains unusable... Nvidia Linux team should really focus on the blocking feature first.

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    • #3
      On the contrary, I'm happy to get bug fixes!

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      • #4
        Seen it every time now so maybe it's worth a note... It might probably help if you could post links to both 32bit and 64bit driver versions, not just the latter...

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        • #5
          I still have to turn off composite when running certain things. How long has this been going on for?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by storma View Post
            I still have to turn off composite when running certain things. How long has this been going on for?
            Unfortunately, every single compositor in linux doesn't work properly with Nvidia.

            All Xrender compositors have tearing because xrender extensions doesn't support vsync, and xorg never added support for it.

            Most openlgl compositors also have issues. Kwin and Mutter tears with vsync, Compiz have terrible performance while dragging windows and also playing games.

            The only opengl compositor that works as it should is E17 compositor, but it's not standalone and I don't like E17.

            Dev's never bothered to fix these problems and blame Nvidia drivers for their incompetence. Windows have a perfect composite desktop with no performance hit and is tear free, so don't blame Nvidia drivers.

            Weston compositor is the last hope of getting this fixed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by narciso View Post
              Unfortunately, every single compositor in linux doesn't work properly with Nvidia.

              All Xrender compositors have tearing because xrender extensions doesn't support vsync, and xorg never added support for it.

              Most openlgl compositors also have issues. Kwin and Mutter tears with vsync, Compiz have terrible performance while dragging windows and also playing games.
              https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651312#c37 and
              https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669122#c2

              So no we do not need wayland to fix those. You can already have no tearing by enabling the workaround in this bug or wait for GNOME 3.8 (the opengl extension didn't get finished in time for 3.6).

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              • #8
                Thanks for the links.

                I already knew the gnome workaround, but that workaround also increase gpu temperature when idle.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by narciso View Post
                  Thanks for the links.

                  I already knew the gnome workaround, but that workaround also increase gpu temperature when idle.
                  Yes there are reasons why we don't do that by default. A proper fix is being worked on (would not only fix that bug but allow us to always use page flipping and thus increase performance).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by drago01 View Post
                    Yes there are reasons why we don't do that by default. A proper fix is being worked on (would not only fix that bug but allow us to always use page flipping and thus increase performance).
                    Is there any change that fix would land this year?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by narciso View Post
                      Is there any change that fix would land this year?
                      GNOME 3.6 will be released in the coming days and 3.8 is due in 6 months. So unfortunately not (it would not be small enough to get it into 3.6.x).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by spykes View Post
                        Without Optimus support the Nvidia chip embedded in my laptop remains unusable... Nvidia Linux team should really focus on the blocking feature first.
                        Yeah... or how about simply working even when Optimus is disabled. My Thinkpad T520's firmware settings can be configured for integrated, discrete, or Optimus. When I choose discrete, the Nouveau drivers for X will load fine, but the nVidia binary blob won't.

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                        • #13
                          One thing's for sure... when Steam for Linux comes out... I'll be sticking with Windows.

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                          • #14
                            There are some Nvidia related fixes for the next iteration of Compiz. It seems it is going to be a bit faster

                            https://launchpad.net/compiz/+milestone/0.9.8.4

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by johnc View Post
                              One thing's for sure... when Steam for Linux comes out... I'll be sticking with Windows.
                              I must say I'm concerned about the lasting "first impressions" impact there will be when Steam for Linux is released... hmm, let me explain what I mean.

                              There's quite a few people at my work who have now switched to Linux, including one who was pretty much a hard-core brainwashed Windows user just a few years back. I've noticed that due to my using different Linux variants for a while now that I've just become used to all the little niggling issues that need to be worked around, and I first buy hardware that I know will perform well in Linux. People new to the OS don't know straight up that hardware X or driver Y might not work well for gaming. I have had numerous questions from newcomers and many disappointed looks when they come across problem after problem such as graphics driver woes, dependency problems, even simple things like ALT+TAB not working while gaming (lots of UT2004 players at my office)...

                              I'm worried that Steam for Linux might convince a number of people to try out Linux, but when they do try it they'll have problem X (e.g. no direct rendering from their discrete card due to lack of support for an Optimus setup) which will leave a bad taste in their mouth when they don't know how to solve it or work around it.

                              </end offtopic rant>

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