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NVIDIA 304.37 Linux Driver Brings 41 Official Changes
You're making this too easy. It took you exactly two posts to turn 180 degrees. All I did was bemoan Nvidia's treatment of nouveau and here you are, still going around in circles raging about who-knows-what.
Have a herbal infusion and leave the internet for a week, kid.
Your quotes don't even make sense. Just like anything else you wrote. And I'm probably old enough to be your father. You're like, 12, right?
Of course it does, they are both about the relation between Nvidia and the nouveau driver.
You are pushing a political stance while overlooking the practical usage.
Answer me this *IF* a machine has nouveau drivers installed and loaded by the kernel and thus grabbing the hardware, how is the nvidia driver going to aquire control?
Where is my choice in using either nvidia drivers or nouveau. IF you don't want to use the nvidia drivers you don't want to BUT if a distro enables nouveau by default I don't have a choice.
I am looking at this from a dumb windows user who wants to try linux. Sure I could go in, blacklist the nouveau or recompile the kernel if it is built-in, but is a newbie? no.
Sure it would be great if nvidia opened the spec's to allow nouveau to provide better drivers but they havn't and to be fair nvidia drivers are good.
Also hte open spec for ati havn't really produced what the FOSS advocates fully wanted, last time I checked they couldn't handle glsl2 ... and even then hte top of the range ati cards are not supported by the foss drivers
This is such a silly argument. Nvidia's blob and nouveau cannot coexist, so it only makes sense to offer an option for disabling nouveau. This option simply blacklists nouveau, so what's the big deal?
The command-line option is a small deal. The big deal is that they should release documentation for their hardware, which would improve out-of-the-box experience for millions of Linux users out there. They can still offer their driver to whoever wants it.
The fact that their only contribution to the Linux driver for Nvidia hardware has been a command-line switch to blacklist it makes this a very good place to point this out -- again.
That's all. Don't get distracted by RealNC's circular schizo-arguments with himself. I only posted a one-post-rant before he came here with his merry-go-round lala-world.
Your argument is one-sided. Because people's experience would also get better if Linux would be more friendly to proprietary drivers.
They have the kernel source, they have the permission to link their blobs with the GPL-ed kernel, they have all the information about the hardware (they made the hardware), what else do they need? Their blob is fine, at least according to you.
The Linux kernel people, on the other hand, don't have any access to documentation so people are effectively not able to run open-source drivers on their Nvidia hardware (though the nouveau guys are really changing this, and fast).