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  • NVIDIA PR Responds To Torvalds' Harsh Words

    Phoronix: NVIDIA PR Responds To Torvalds' Harsh Words

    NVIDIA's PR department has issued a statement following the harsh comments by Linus Torvalds last week where he referred to the graphics company as the single worst company they have ever dealt with, called them out on not supporting Optimus, and other issues...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEyMjk

  • #2
    That was a really long-winded way to basically say, "Fuck you, Linus!"

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    • #3
      I think the "free & open" fanatics sometimes confuse the difference between a project and a product. NVidia offers products, not projects. They manage to make their products work within the confinements of a kernel that basically only supports in-kernel drivers. It's quite a challenge, but they come through with a product that works.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RealNC View Post
        I think the "free & open" fanatics sometimes confuse the difference between a project and a product. NVidia offers products, not projects. They manage to make their products work within the confinements of a kernel that basically only supports in-kernel drivers. It's quite a challenge, but they come through with a product that works.
        Is that a no true Scotsman argument, or would you like to clarify the difference between a product and a project?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RealNC View Post
          I think the "free & open" fanatics sometimes confuse the difference between a project and a product. NVidia offers products, not projects. They manage to make their products work within the confinements of a kernel that basically only supports in-kernel drivers. It's quite a challenge, but they come through with a product that works.
          NVIDIA just disrespects the Linux kernel ecosystem. Some people don't care because they're quite
          happy with the features of the NVIDIA blob, which is admittedly the best blob around.
          Calling those that do care fanatics right away is ignorant, isn't it?

          Nobody asks NVIDIA to open up their driver. What's keeping them from releasing at least parts
          of the documentation as AMD does? I think it would be widely accepted if a company keeps
          their blob in parallel to a community driven OSS driver based on documentation. If NVIDIA wants
          to be in the Linux game they should play by the rules.
          Last edited by entropy; 06-19-2012, 01:56 PM.

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          • #6
            Saying the newly introduced options for the nvidia installer helped bumblebee is more or less a joke because when you use packaged drivers those options are not used at all. They should have known better as the number of laptops with Optimus is increasing very much. Just ignore that fact and wait till another one tries to find a workaround is not good. Certainly the drivers for desktop systems work very well but they should have done much for Optimus support.

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            • #7
              Wrong anwser

              Linus criticized from a Linux kernel developer point of view. He didn't say: "Fu**in' artifacts and frame drops when I'm pawning noobs in ETQW"
              The PR, as usual, gave a canned response that is only marginally related to the main issue.

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              • #8
                nVidia is full of crap. Let's take a look at all of the Android based hardware out there on the Tegra 2 that has been forgotten about and left behind because we have NO DRIVERS for their hardware. O2X, G2X, Viewsonic GTab, etc... All we want is open drivers that can be used to implement hardware acceleration but NOOOOOO... nVidia is too engrossed in being ass hats to give us that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by talvik View Post
                  Linus criticized from a Linux kernel developer point of view. He didn't say: "Fu**in' artifacts and frame drops when I'm pawning noobs in ETQW"
                  The PR, as usual, gave a canned response that is only marginally related to the main issue.
                  Indeed. In fact it's exactly what "happy" NVIDIA users answered.
                  "But hey, it's the best Linux driver around. So NVIDIA does care about Linux. q.e.d."

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                  • #10
                    Dafuq? That's all they have to say?

                    Pffft, go fool yourself, NVidia!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by talvik View Post
                      Linus criticized from a Linux kernel developer point of view. He didn't say: "Fu**in' artifacts and frame drops when I'm pawning noobs in ETQW"
                      The PR, as usual, gave a canned response that is only marginally related to the main issue.
                      Their answer was not targeted at Linus.

                      Their answer was meant for clueless users who are being fed the "religious fanatics of FOSS" crap by astroturfers and who probably only want to play some games under Wine on Ubuntu.

                      The fact that kernel developers have a really hard time dealing with Nvidia hardware is something they don't want addressed, so they bring out the PR candy about features and products and corporate vision and progress and freedom and universal human rights. So the casual user, who blames SuSE when his blob fucks up, keeps buying the closed hardware and blaming Linus and the kernel and X devs every time he has a problem.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheCycoONE View Post
                        Is that a no true Scotsman argument, or would you like to clarify the difference between a product and a project?
                        "Project" is the term used for open source software where many people collaborate on it. The focus is not to market it in the best possible way and maximize monetary profits.

                        A "product" can also be open source, but usually it's not, and the main focus is to sell well.

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                        • #13


                          nvidia suggesting bumblebee, really? x'D
                          That's pathetic, I'll just buy amd, even if it has crappy drivers :@

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                          • #14
                            Gone

                            I just removed the last Nvidia card from my systems; now running ATI and Intel with Fedora 17 out-of-the-box drivers. I get flawless 1080p video, 3D desktop and adequate light gaming. When Nvidia considers updating their attitude, I'll reconsider my opinion and recommendations.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by vertexSymphony View Post


                              nvidia suggesting bumblebee, really? x'D
                              That's pathetic, I'll just buy amd, even if it has crappy drivers :@
                              I think you can buy laptop with Nvidia graphic card (without Optimus):

                              http://zareason.com/shop/Laptops/

                              http://linuxpreloaded.com/

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