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  • #16
    Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
    That would be desktop or gaming stations then, wine etc run best on nvidia for years.
    I think that they need to go into communication with community, they seriously lack linux pr(other word for lies ). Yes, and they screwed with optimus hard and screwed opengl on 4xx+ series. But the blob at least works very good.
    Officially nVidia does not consider the GNU/Linux desktop to be significant, I hope this will change.

    Except for bugs and some lacking features, nVidia really does offer good enterprise quality drivers, and this is good for us desktop users (including gamers) as well. The performance is on par with the Windows drivers, and we need to remember the Windows drivers are far from bug free as well. If nVidia start focusing on the desktop as well, I think their drivers would quickly become even better.

    What did nVidia screw up with OpenGL on GeForce 4xx+? My MSI N580GTX TwinFrozr II/OC works very well in Ubuntu 10.10 with 260.19.44, 260.19.06 did however create some interesting "effects" during load. Compared to fglrx, developing with nVidia drivers works very well, even though some driver versions have annoying bugs.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by efikkan View Post
      Officially nVidia does not consider the GNU/Linux desktop to be significant, I hope this will change.

      Except for bugs and some lacking features, nVidia really does offer good enterprise quality drivers, and this is good for us desktop users (including gamers) as well. The performance is on par with the Windows drivers, and we need to remember the Windows drivers are far from bug free as well. If nVidia start focusing on the desktop as well, I think their drivers would quickly become even better.
      They currently miss serious SLI support, multimonitor support and rotated monitor accelerated support. This is all. This is hardly preventing to call the drivers "linux desktop certified", though I suggest they earn more on quadro sells than geforce for linux sells.

      Originally posted by efikkan View Post
      What did nVidia screw up with OpenGL on GeForce 4xx+?
      Here, section OpenGL problems.
      Last edited by crazycheese; 05-20-2011, 06:50 PM. Reason: mistakes, misspells and equal errors...

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      • #18
        That's not poor OpenGL performance, it also affected DirectX 9 and was a driver bug(s).

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        • #19
          Originally posted by efikkan View Post
          That's not poor OpenGL performance, it also affected DirectX 9 and was a driver bug(s).
          Was a bug? Affected directx? Any proof or links? I have understood something quite different.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by thefirstm View Post
            The NVIDIA blob has had KMS support for a long, long time. Much longer the the OSS drivers. It also supports running X as a normal user. If NVIDIA were to switch the blob to use the same method of acceleration as the OSS drivers, it would set them back years in terms of reliability, performance, and image quality.
            You're joking right ... ? The NVIDIA blob does not supports KMS and it never has, in fact only OSS drivers support KMS at the moment.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by matthewbpt View Post
              You're joking right ... ? The NVIDIA blob does not supports KMS and it never has, in fact only OSS drivers support KMS at the moment.
              The NVidia blob does mode setting in the kernel and has done so for many years. This allows X to run without system privileges. What it does not offer is a framebuffer driver that takes advantage of it, but that isn't directly related to KMS (in my opinion).
              Last edited by brent; 05-21-2011, 08:01 AM.

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              • #22
                nouveau uses kms but nvidia binary never did. you can use a vesa framebuffer if you like for your consoles. kms looks fine, but as you usually mainly use x i see no huge impact if the driver has kms or not. Of couse it is true that you could run X without suid with kms if thats a major thing you need - testing nouveau is really interesting but may not be suiteable for every need.

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                • #23
                  The nvidia driver uses "KMS".

                  There's a bit more discussion of the issue in the thread before that post. About everything after, however, degenerated into a distro fight (for whatever reason).

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                  • #24
                    @Crazycheese,

                    If there were no system hangs and OpenGL memory leaks, then why did nVidia fix it with a release? Are you saying it did not crash because you didn't use certain features? (for a long time)

                    Or are you saying you have no knowledge about the issue? Or are you saying nVidia is lying?

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                    • #25
                      These drivers don't fix the resize bugs in konsole and a few apps I noticed.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by crazycheese;209632[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_400_Series"
                        Here[/URL], section OpenGL problems.
                        Last time I checked, there was some evidence that the slow OpenGL texture transfer were a deliberate limitation designed to help sell the more expensive Quadro cards... ah yeah, here it is, and here too.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by EarthMind View Post
                          I don't understand why they work on Linux support for their 3D feature, while there is something important like Optimus being neglected. Is 3D being used in the Linux business world then?
                          The 3D support is there because a lot of high end Hollywood is Linux + nVidia. These studios buy a lot of premium priced hardware and do have something of a halo effect for nVidia. Normal consumers on Linux are not the target market. The Nvidia drivers are 90% the same code as the Windows drivers. Features that aren't so easy to port from the windows drivers and don't benefit Hollywood aren't a high priority.

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