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  • #31
    Originally posted by droidhacker View Post
    And so AMD's plans aren't nearly as PURE as a lot of you seem to presume.
    And do they need Coreboot for that as well?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
      The only reason AMD opened up is because ATI kept such a lousy track record in the past.
      Actually that's not right... the work which led to the more recent improvements in fglrx started almost a year before we made the decision to restart open source graphics driver support. The primary reasons were (a) some of AMD's CPU customers (OEMs) pushed very hard for open source graphics support, and (b) having both CPU and GPU businesses meant that the worst-case scenarios linked to offering open source GPU documentation and code would be unlikely to kill the company.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bridgman View Post
        some of AMD's CPU customers (OEMs) pushed very hard for open source graphics support
        May I ask who?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
          I think you just don't like the fact that nvidia has been and will continue to be the flagship hardware/driver provider for most causal Linux users.
          Then your thinking is very wrong. Fanboyism is down the street to the left.

          Nvidia doesn't need open source drivers to get Linux market share so way even bother... The only reason AMD opened up is because ATI kept such a lousy track record in the past.
          Yup, mindless fanboy right behind the corner.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
            May I ask who?
            No, sorry. To be more precise, you can ask but since they were confidential discussions I'm not going to say anything here.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bridgman View Post
              No, sorry. To be more precise, you can ask but since they were confidential discussions I'm not going to say anything here.
              OK Too bad...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                Actually that's not right... the work which led to the more recent improvements in fglrx started almost a year before we made the decision to restart open source graphics driver support. The primary reasons were (a) some of AMD's CPU customers (OEMs) pushed very hard for open source graphics support, and (b) having both CPU and GPU businesses meant that the worst-case scenarios linked to offering open source GPU documentation and code would be unlikely to kill the company.
                Noted...

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                • #38
                  There were certainly a few people arguing internally that proprietary drivers should die Die DIE !!! but that was not the basis for the final decision.

                  The primary objective was to let distros offer a really good out-of-box experience when installing on a typical PC, which was hard to do with proprietary drivers.

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                  • #39
                    There were certainly a few people arguing internally that proprietary drivers should die Die DIE !!!
                    Lol, those must have been entertaining meetings.

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                    • #40
                      Yeah, they were. The hard part was that everyone had good reasons for saying what they did. Linux is used in a lot of different markets, often having totally different requirements and priorities, so the "obvious choice" for one market may seem totally insane in the eyes of someone familiar with a different part of the Linux market.

                      The great thing is that everyone was able to converge on a common plan in the end, and that we're all still talking to each other

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                      • #41
                        It's very interesting to see a thread with people bashing nvidia for once (and also others trying to defend it). It's good for a laugh.
                        Regardless, anything nvidia contributes to xorg will only be done out of self interest. If it's of benefit to the community really doesn't matter - it being of benefit to nvidia does. The only reason nvidia has opened up the vdpau api is to get more people using it - and thus buying nvidia cards for using it (they have direct hardware support for it, so it should well run better on their cards).
                        AMD obviously see a good business decision in investing in open source drivers and other things that are good for the community - but again this isn't to be nice, it's about business.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                          Then your thinking is very wrong. Fanboyism is down the street to the left.
                          Mix in some #'s if your going to tell me I'm wrong... Because your just being a troll. Your posts make up about a third of this thead, atm

                          Phononix Graphics Survey 09
                          http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/res..._results/2.png
                          http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/res..._results/3.png
                          Phononix Graphics Servey 08
                          http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/res..._results/2.png
                          http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/res..._results/3.png
                          Phoronix Graphics Survey 07
                          http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/924/03.png
                          http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/924/03.png

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                          • #43
                            I don't get all this nvidia bashing in this thread. You can bash them for not being cooperative with the development of an open source driver but for this? I wish the fglrx team was as involved as nvidia.

                            Where nvidia contributes to xorg for the benefit of the users of their binary drivers and actively monitors changes to xorg to prevent breakage with their binary driver, the fglrx team seems to live and work on their own little island and don't seem to care much about breakage.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
                              There's a difference in what is persued and what is currently the situation. What I said was that if it is OK to just have a blob and no FLOSS then one might as well run Windows or Mac OS X in case one wants Unix.
                              I cannot even come close to comprehending THIS insane view on drivers. Just because the video driver is closed we are better off running Windows? What drug are you on?

                              As a user, I can greatly benefit from using Linux over Windows/OSX for -countless- reasons other than the simple fact that it is an open system. Your way of phrasing this suggests otherwise.

                              Start posting about function rather than pure philosophy, at least your extremist views will have a sliver of reason to them that way.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by monraaf View Post
                                I don't get all this nvidia bashing in this thread. You can bash them for not being cooperative with the development of an open source driver but for this? I wish the fglrx team was as involved as nvidia.

                                Where nvidia contributes to xorg for the benefit of the users of their binary drivers and actively monitors changes to xorg to prevent breakage with their binary driver, the fglrx team seems to live and work on their own little island and don't seem to care much about breakage.
                                You do know they actually spend money and manpower themselves on the OS driver right? That undermines every single argument you just turned up with.

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