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    Phoronix: NVIDIA 180.51 Display Driver Released

    NVIDIA has now managed to make it nearly two weeks before issuing a new Linux driver update. The NVIDIA 185.19 Beta is still the latest in the 185.xx series, but NVIDIA has provided a pre-release of the 180.51 driver. The NVIDIA 180.51 driver adds support for the GeForce GT 130, GeForce GT 140, GeForce GTS 250, GeForce 9400GT, and GeForce 9600GSO 512MB...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzIxNg

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    So... NVIDIA has 0 problems making the blob driver compatible with a new unreleased Kernel (and Xserver), but with other companies the user has to wait many months after a new kernel/xserver release.

    The good side of the story is that the free nv driver is bad (that is of course bad, fortunately nouveau is becoming better) and the radeon driver is every time better.
    But that is not a excuse to not make the driver compatible with the latest stable kernel/xserver...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KDesk View Post
      So... NVIDIA has 0 problems making the blob driver compatible with a new unreleased Kernel (and Xserver), but with other companies the user has to wait many months after a new kernel/xserver release.

      The good side of the story is that the free nv driver is bad (that is of course bad, fortunately nouveau is becoming better) and the radeon driver is every time better.
      But that is not a excuse to not make the driver compatible with the latest stable kernel/xserver...
      And this suprises you? Development when unhindered by politics usually will deliver results faster.

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      • #4
        As far as I know, AMD has to do more development work for new Xorg/Linux due to being closer to these systems / using more parts of them. NVIDIA has rewritten most parts for their own.

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        • #5
          as far as i know fglrx is full of crappy bugs, like that vdrift one i discovered using pts, but nvidia worked fine...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
            And this suprises you? Development when unhindered by politics usually will deliver results faster.
            This

            With all the hoo-ha surrounding ATI's fglrx, no wonder they have a problem getting out good releases. The open ATI drivers are getting better with time and perhaps be on a par with fglrx very soon

            nVidia just gets better...and I do wish they opened their drivers as well.

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            • #7
              NVidia drivers == awsome.
              ATI drivers (open and closed source) == major eye-gouging inducing suckage.

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              • #8
                Just curious, what are the "politics" everyone is talking about here ?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                  Just curious, what are the "politics" everyone is talking about here ?
                  Having to adhere to a license that stifles progress, having to debate endlessly about how to do crap and then having one party say screw that we will start over and go another route, development in area's that interest the developers (useless things like plymouth) instead of things that end users want (ummm video playback comes to mind), or how about the endless "we don't use it so fsck you, we don't care if it can help you" replies and in the case of Xorg, having to wait until intel tells what the others should do.

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                  • #10
                    OK, so basically all the usual problems that come with a volunteer community.

                    I don't think it's really "Intel telling people what to do"... Keith was telling people what to do at SuSE, and at HP before that IIRC. He and Jim have been working on X for so long that I doubt anyone has a problem with him taking the lead on X... I don't know how many of the other X devs you have met but none of them seem to have much tolerance for being "told what to do" unless they agree with the proposed direction.

                    Not sure what you mean by "a license that stifles progress"; are you talking about the X11/MIT/BSD license there ?
                    Last edited by bridgman; 04-19-2009, 12:19 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                      Not sure what you mean by "a license that stifles progress"; are you talking about the X11/MIT/BSD license there ?
                      I'm talking about any license that prohibits any implementation of so called free code in any manner, shape or form. No, I'm not singling out the X11/MIT/BSD license but any license that restricts usage and interoperability. The BSD license is one of the less restrictive but still nowhere near the freedom one enjoys with truly free code such as projects like SQLite.

                      Remember the nvidia fallback patch? Pure political bullshit. Why hasn't vdpau been adopted even though it's by far the most complete and mature solution out there? Again more political bullshit. Or how about the time when they removed kernel code that they thought only would break the nvidia drivers? Only after did they find out that some oss projects did indeed use the same code (vbox in this case) did they temporarily put it back in to give time for the vbox to get their code up to snuff. Then there is the whole radeon vs radeonhd crap too.

                      http://www.sqlite.org/copyright.html

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                      • #12
                        Frankly, it doesn't matter how often nvidia releases a new driver -- their stuff is closed, and thus inherently limited by the amount of manpower they can personally throw at it, and their marketing department, and ...

                        Thank god ATI has taken a more sane path. Their users will win in the end.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MaestroMaus
                          I wonder why new NV beta drivers for desktops (which most people should not use) get posted here, and NV stable drivers for Go cards (laptops) do not get posted here. Why is that?
                          Wtf are you talking about? There are no separate laptop/desktop drivers for Linux.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                            And this suprises you? Development when unhindered by politics usually will deliver results faster.
                            Yeah, so will development unhindered by testing procedures. The 180.50 release somehow didn't work on 7xxx cards any more, and nobody noticed before release

                            as a nvidia user I always dread upgrading the nvidia-drivers. Regressions are way too common

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dragoran View Post
                              Wtf are you talking about? There are no separate laptop/desktop drivers for Linux.
                              Sorry, your right.

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