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    Phoronix: NVIDIA Pushes Out Another Binary Driver Update

    While NVIDIA doesn't stick to a defined release cycle like AMD where they will issue Catalyst driver updates for Linux and Windows on a predictable monthly basis, as of late they have been pushing out a lot of drivers. Two weeks ago NVIDIA released four new Linux drivers and then just a day later they released another driver...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzA1Nw

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    So these are "stable"?

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    • #3
      I had a foolish hope when i saw that: "Fixed an X driver performance problem on integrated GPUs." Unfortunately the performace is as catastrophic as usual on my NVS 135M under KDE 4 with composite activated. KDE 4 has been out for over a year. NVidia still has not fixed their driver. I will keep recommending people not to buy any nvidia product thanks to their behaviour. One year. Incredible.

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      • #4
        is it just me that this phoronix *news* is more like an amd *advertisement*. besides, lol at *predictable* (thankfully the word *regular* was not abused) amd releases .

        i wonder what would happen in a situation if phoronix were asked to write a wikipedia entry on linux graphics drivers . (would imagine it would be worse than if it were done by stallman himself .)

        @ Med_: i understand your frustration, but this is not constructive. i have myself seen kde slowness, but i have seen things improve and wrinkles get ironed out over the time with very honest efforts from both nvidia and the kde team. i am using ubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 from kubuntu-experimental repo - 3d effects are smoother than compiz and 2d is good too. in any case, try to at least describe the problem you are facing.

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        • #5
          NVIDIA seems to be taking care of KDE4 performance issues. Granted, GeForce 6-series cards didn't have the same "serious" issues as I guess the 7's and 8's did, but there were issues. And they are dissolving.

          And, for the record, NVIDIA is doing a better job fixing KDE4 issues than AMD is with video. Or wine. Or $any_number_of_other_problems.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hdas View Post
            is it just me that this phoronix *news* is more like an amd *advertisement*. besides, lol at *predictable* (thankfully the word *regular* was not abused) amd releases .

            i wonder what would happen in a situation if phoronix were asked to write a wikipedia entry on linux graphics drivers . (would imagine it would be worse than if it were done by stallman himself .)

            @ Med_: i understand your frustration, but this is not constructive. i have myself seen kde slowness, but i have seen things improve and wrinkles get ironed out over the time with very honest efforts from both nvidia and the kde team. i am using ubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 from kubuntu-experimental repo - 3d effects are smoother than compiz and 2d is good too. in any case, try to at least describe the problem you are facing.

            I stated in several occasions that Phoronix is absolutley pro-AMD and have suggested them to just put an AMD logo for website. This can be "silently" understood from Michael's way of writing AMD articles and NVIDIA articles.

            However, what I understood in time is that Michael isn't pro-AMD, because he writes in the same way even for Intel articles(well, not exactly the same :P ). This means that he simply doesn't like blob binary drivers, even if they are 1000 times better than any opens source driver of AMD/INTEL.

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            • #7
              @bulletxt:

              I don't know, they're usually gushing praise for the Catalyst releases as well. Well, aside from the fact that XvBA is vaporware so far.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                However, what I understood in time is that Michael isn't pro-AMD, because he writes in the same way even for Intel articles(well, not exactly the same :P ). This means that he simply doesn't like blob binary drivers, even if they are 1000 times better than any opens source driver of AMD/INTEL.

                Hmmm? Sure, I would love all open-source drivers, but I am not anti-binary drivers. At this time they offer the best performance and features on Linux. On my main laptop I am running a binary display driver. Oh yeah, and it's the NVIDIA binary driver.
                Michael Larabel
                http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Michael View Post
                  Hmmm? Sure, I would love all open-source drivers, but I am not anti-binary drivers. At this time they offer the best performance and features on Linux. On my main laptop I am running a binary display driver. Oh yeah, and it's the NVIDIA binary driver.
                  If that is the case, then I (and a lot of other people) don't understand why is your AMD articles always like a "wow" and NVIDIA like "yea ok, I'm bored"... because that is what I understand from your posts....... and I'm sure im not the only one to feel this..

                  But anyways I don't have anything against you even if you were pro-AMD 'cause I'm the first one to own AMD hardware

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Med_ View Post
                    I had a foolish hope when i saw that: "Fixed an X driver performance problem on integrated GPUs." Unfortunately the performace is as catastrophic as usual on my NVS 135M under KDE 4 with composite activated. KDE 4 has been out for over a year. NVidia still has not fixed their driver. I will keep recommending people not to buy any nvidia product thanks to their behaviour. One year. Incredible.
                    So you're going to recommend ATI cards? Epic fail.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hdas View Post
                      @ Med_: i understand your frustration, but this is not constructive. i have myself seen kde slowness, but i have seen things improve and wrinkles get ironed out over the time with very honest efforts from both nvidia and the kde team. i am using ubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 from kubuntu-experimental repo - 3d effects are smoother than compiz and 2d is good too. in any case, try to at least describe the problem you are facing.
                      Not constructive? KDE 4 is simply not usable at all with the nvidia driver. Konsole takes several seconds display when minised. The effects run at 2 to 3 fps. Moving windows is extremely shaky. My underpowered netbook with a crappy intel 945GM runs KDE 4 much, *much* better than my core 2 duo laptop with the nvidia NVS 135M. NVidia cannot not be aware of the problem, it is so blatant with integrated graphics cards (and on geforce 6xxx but that is another story).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hax0r View Post
                        So you're going to recommend ATI cards? Epic fail.
                        ATI plays the opensource game (partially at least) releasing docs to make Free drivers and their binary driver runs KDE 4 perfectly. Intel shows decent performance with KDE 4 too. So far NVidia has caused me the most headaches and they seem to be very unwilling to fix their driver. Let's face it, if they have not fixed it after 1 year, they will never fix it. Ah, the joys to closed drivers …

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Med_ View Post
                          ATI plays the opensource game (partially at least) releasing docs to make Free drivers and their binary driver runs KDE 4 perfectly. Intel shows decent performance with KDE 4 too. So far NVidia has caused me the most headaches and they seem to be very unwilling to fix their driver. Let's face it, if they have not fixed it after 1 year, they will never fix it. Ah, the joys to closed drivers …

                          Welcome to NVIDIA's way of doing things. They are kindly inviting you to buy a new NVIDIA GPU, possible a Geforce 8 or 9.

                          That's exactly why I hate NVIDIA, I hate their company politics, I hate their confusing naming products to confuse user, and I hate there "small" bugs that tend to never be fixed. The result? Buy a new GPU.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bulletxt View Post
                            Welcome to NVIDIA's way of doing things. They are kindly inviting you to buy a new NVIDIA GPU, possible a Geforce 8 or 9.

                            That's exactly why I hate NVIDIA, I hate their company politics, I hate their confusing naming products to confuse user, and I hate there "small" bugs that tend to never be fixed. The result? Buy a new GPU.
                            What confusing names do you talk about? My brother's GeForce GTS 250, ehm I mean 9800GTX+ runs KDE4 fine. Well, the drivers before 180.27 at least, it frequently crashes since then.

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                            • #15
                              And you use now 180.29? For me and others it fixed the AGP GART issue for GeForce 6 GPUs on first X start and one crash on a h264 movie which does now work with the current mplayer vdpau. The only bad thing is that -vo null -vc null -ao pcm seems to be broken with this mplayer snapshot.
                              Last edited by Kano; 02-11-2009, 04:36 PM.

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