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    Phoronix: Canonical Posts New Unity 8 Mir Compositor Demo Video

    Canonical developer Daniel d'Andrada has posted a new video showing off Unity 8 as a Mir compositor...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYzODI

  • #2
    Nice! I want one.

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    • #3
      There are also notes which mention that normally unfocused apps are suspended but for the demo they were disabled.

      Notes:
      - I later noticed that I had quite a bit of output going to the terminals, and that takes its toll on the FPS
      - In production code we suspend unfocused applications. But for demo purposes I've disabled that in order to emphasize that the animations are dealing with the actual live mir surfaces and not with screenshots of them.

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      • #4
        Impressive. It makes me actually consider getting a tablet and installing Ubuntu.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by phoronix View Post
          Phoronix: Canonical Posts New Unity 8 Mir Compositor Demo Video

          Canonical developer Daniel d'Andrada has posted a new video showing off Unity 8 as a Mir compositor...

          http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYzODI
          I really liked the app switching gesture.
          The performance wasn't great, however. That ball had weird judder at the top of its arc.
          Is live to see the same thing done with efl since that's designed to run with very constrained resources.

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          • #6
            this remember me 3d compositor

            this remember me 3d compositor in wolf 3d style
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs

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            • #7
              They should consider publishing something more interesting ...

              This demo is fun, but it does not provide any "Whaou" jaw-dropping view of Unity, this is jsut a short note saying "we are progressing".

              1 - what is brought different besides Wayland?
              2 - what is the user experience differenciator?

              For now we only have a buggy unity 7 which renders linux as unstable as windows used to be,
              since they are not able to correct this (for instance off-side of the cursor when trying to select a window, unity crashes a lot when using openoffice/libreoffice, ...).
              I wonder how they will be able to handle it properly in Unity 8...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                For now we only have a buggy unity 7 which renders linux as unstable as windows used to be
                Speak for your self. I have been using unity since 11.10 and it works quite nicely.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                  Speak for your self. I have been using unity since 11.10 and it works quite nicely.
                  This is what I did, however I'm also teaching at the university, using a lot of different combination of computers, graphic card vendors (AMD / Intel, NVIDIA, ...) and using proprietary drivers or free ones.

                  On each of them:
                  - if you want to select a window, for instance to resize it, then if is a pain to be precise enough to have the mouse cursor at the correct position. The mouse is often offset by some pixels
                  - if you use regularly libreoffice for working, to produce reports, create presentations, then I see a lot of time unity crashing, this is very freaking, especially when time constraints render this crashes unfortunate
                  - if you start to use a window and move it a little bit, then at some point it will get maximized or will cross the border to the other desktop, and you start to demand where the main window is
                  - not telling that the update manager does not show on top when you click on it ...

                  I know that for some parameters this could be "tweaked", but they are annoying on a daily basis.

                  Note that I'm using Ubuntu on a daily basis, about 14 hours a day, this is my main operating system at work and at home...

                  If you do not encounter these issues, it is probably because:
                  1 - you got used using each window in full screen mode, la windows
                  2 - you are turning off you computer regularly, so unity is refreshed
                  3 - you do not use libreoffice for real productivity work

                  Please do not take this as an offense, this is only my conclusions after discussing these issues with some of the sysadmins here, they also state they do not have as much problem as me, but they do (1) and (3), and also have switched to "Mate" ...

                  If I find time for this, I will blog on this topic more seriously.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                    This is what I did, however I'm also teaching at the university, using a lot of different combination of computers, graphic card vendors (AMD / Intel, NVIDIA, ...) and using proprietary drivers or free ones.

                    On each of them:
                    - if you want to select a window, for instance to resize it, then if is a pain to be precise enough to have the mouse cursor at the correct position. The mouse is often offset by some pixels
                    - if you use regularly libreoffice for working, to produce reports, create presentations, then I see a lot of time unity crashing, this is very freaking, especially when time constraints render this crashes unfortunate
                    - if you start to use a window and move it a little bit, then at some point it will get maximized or will cross the border to the other desktop, and you start to demand where the main window is
                    - not telling that the update manager does not show on top when you click on it ...

                    I know that for some parameters this could be "tweaked", but they are annoying on a daily basis.

                    Note that I'm using Ubuntu on a daily basis, about 14 hours a day, this is my main operating system at work and at home...

                    If you do not encounter these issues, it is probably because:
                    1 - you got used using each window in full screen mode, la windows
                    2 - you are turning off you computer regularly, so unity is refreshed
                    3 - you do not use libreoffice for real productivity work

                    Please do not take this as an offense, this is only my conclusions after discussing these issues with some of the sysadmins here, they also state they do not have as much problem as me, but they do (1) and (3), and also have switched to "Mate" ...

                    If I find time for this, I will blog on this topic more seriously.
                    Do not confuse your experience with universal facts. I'm using Libreoffice everyday and I haven't had a crash for years. Also that's hardly Ubuntu's fault, have problems with Libreoffice - switch to something else.

                    As for Windows etc. Unity has its problems, if you find any fault with it, why use it? If you want to use Ubuntu, there is Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Unbuntu Gnome to choose from, you are not tied to Unity. And can add other DE and switch between them at will.

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                    • #11
                      I also see crashing of Unity 7 very, very rarely and I have my PC running for dozen hours. I'm currently using Trusty (development branch) of Ubuntu which I upgraded to from 13.10 in the first week of 2014 and Unity 7 crashed only once (in this period of time).

                      I have a bad habit of opening websites and not closing them so I end up with about 90 tabs open in Chrome all the time this results in very high RAM usage. Usually all my RAM is used and then about 1 GB swap. This doesn't bother Unity 7.

                      As for your points:

                      1 - you got used using each window in full screen mode, la windows

                      No the only windows which I have maximized are that of web browsers and LibreOffice all the rest is at normal size.

                      2 - you are turning off you computer regularly, so unity is refreshed

                      I'm turning it off after a day of use.

                      3 - you do not use libreoffice for real productivity work

                      I'm using LibreOffice very rarely so I don't know how it behaves but seriously I don't believe that it crashes the whole Unity. Maybe you see the apport window the one that is used for reporting bugs.

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                      • #12
                        Add me to the list of people that think Unity 7 is pretty terrible at stability by Linux standards. It's pretty normal by Windows standards, but I don't think that's a bar Linux should strive to meet.

                        It's particularly craptastic on 13.10 when using Crossover and MS Office apps, but it's got problems with all open source apps too. And if you're using a laptop with AMD chipsets? It pretty much turns your laptop into a hot nearly unusable paperweight. Don't even think of trying to run Youtube full screen.

                        I'm pretty sure not ALL of that is purely the fault of Ubuntu nor Unity (maybe very little?), but that's my hardware/OS combo and the current experience is less than good.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by akincer View Post
                          Add me to the list of people that think Unity 7 is pretty terrible at stability by Linux standards. It's pretty normal by Windows standards, but I don't think that's a bar Linux should strive to meet.

                          It's particularly craptastic on 13.10 when using Crossover and MS Office apps, but it's got problems with all open source apps too. And if you're using a laptop with AMD chipsets? It pretty much turns your laptop into a hot nearly unusable paperweight. Don't even think of trying to run Youtube full screen.
                          I'm Unity 7 with Ubuntu 13.10 user, using Office2007 via Crossover, one or two Virtualbox virtual machines with XP, Firefox browser, Thunderbird mail, Skype while listening to music with Rhythmbox... No one single Ubuntu/Unity crash... Regard the resizing of windows... I think old Unity versions had that problem... Now the resize spot is fairly big for me... (I7, 12Gb Ram, 1Tb disk, Nvidia 650Ti with propietary drivers).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by akincer View Post
                            Add me to the list of people that think Unity 7 is pretty terrible at stability by Linux standards. It's pretty normal by Windows standards, but I don't think that's a bar Linux should strive to meet.

                            It's particularly craptastic on 13.10 when using Crossover and MS Office apps, but it's got problems with all open source apps too. And if you're using a laptop with AMD chipsets? It pretty much turns your laptop into a hot nearly unusable paperweight. Don't even think of trying to run Youtube full screen.

                            I'm pretty sure not ALL of that is purely the fault of Ubuntu nor Unity (maybe very little?), but that's my hardware/OS combo and the current experience is less than good.
                            i'm currentely under windows 7 and it's more stable then all linux distros that i'd tried
                            not a single system crash

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                              - if you want to select a window, for instance to resize it, then if is a pain to be precise enough to have the mouse cursor at the correct position. The mouse is often offset by some pixels
                              No, I have about 10px that I can grab to resize , which is plenty and more than average.
                              Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                              - if you use regularly libreoffice for working, to produce reports, create presentations, then I see a lot of time unity crashing, this is very freaking, especially when time constraints render this crashes unfortunate
                              Never happened to me.
                              Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                              - if you start to use a window and move it a little bit, then at some point it will get maximized or will cross the border to the other desktop, and you start to demand where the main window is
                              It will be maximized if you drag it above the panel, not else. And do you have any other reason to drag the window above the panel?
                              If you don't know where you have putted your windows, you shall probably not use multiple screens.
                              Also everyone else behaves the same.
                              Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                              - not telling that the update manager does not show on top when you click on it ...
                              I agree that the update manager is stupid, it shall put only a small notification that I can click on if I want.

                              Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                              2 - you are turning off you computer regularly, so unity is refreshed
                              I have a pc/server that I never turn of and it ain't crashing either.
                              Originally posted by Dr_ST View Post
                              3 - you do not use libreoffice for real productivity work
                              Well I'm a programmer so I typically use IDEs but I do use libreoffice for writing reports and charts.[/QUOTE]

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