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    Phoronix: Mir Works On Screencasting, Parallelized Page Flipping

    While Mir is not going to premiere in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and might not even be ready for Ubuntu 14.10, upstream development of this next-generation display server for Ubuntu to compete with Wayland is still being developed at full-speed...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTYwNDU

  • #2
    Matter of time before they make the same choice as with systemd.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ferdinand View Post
      Matter of time before they make the same choice as with systemd.
      I seriusly hope your wrong...
      MIR is deloping quiet well and fast with the right ideas in mind.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ferdinand View Post
        Matter of time before they make the same choice as with systemd.
        The cases are totally different.

        The "Mir haters" must understand that Wayland isn't a display server. No DE will adopt Wayland as his display server. The DEs teams will build a display server that will implement Wayland protocol.
        Weston it's the reference implementation, but isn't the intent to be used.
        KDE team will adapt (or build a new) kwin to implement wayland protocol and GNOME team will do the same with mutter.

        The difference between kwin, mutter and mir that mir not implement wayland protocol. But they devs already said that it not so hard to do this.

        So, Mir will be the display server for Unity 8 (just like compiz is for unity 7), and will be for the future. What can happen that they may implement the wayland protocol in the future.

        ps: Even Google can adapt the displayflinger to implement wayland (but that I think that will not happen)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by marciocr View Post
          The cases are totally different.

          The "Mir haters" must understand that Wayland isn't a display server. No DE will adopt Wayland as his display server. The DEs teams will build a display server that will implement Wayland protocol.
          Weston it's the reference implementation, but isn't the intent to be used.

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          So, Mir will be the display server for Unity 8 (just like compiz is for unity 7), and will be for the future. What can happen that they may implement the wayland protocol in the future.
          To summarize
          Mir will be implemented when Unity 8 is implemented.
          Mir would be replacing compiz.
          Mir will also be replacing Xorg/xserver - along with a compatibility layer of course.
          Wayland could still be the display protocol for Mir.
          Last edited by profoundWHALE; 02-14-2014, 05:00 PM. Reason: 'along' looks like it's wrong. English is so weird.

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          • #6
            nope Mir is using Compiz and it shares code with Wayland

            Mir would be replacing compiz.

            only for Ubuntu it is
            Mir will also be replacing Xorg/xserver - along with a compatibility layer of course.
            Last edited by Attentäter; 02-14-2014, 06:21 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
              nope Mir is using Compiz and it shares code with Wayland




              only for Ubuntu it is
              MIR is not using compiz, is it?!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheSoulz View Post
                MIR is not using compiz, is it?!
                Unity8 was

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                  Unity8 was
                  I'm pretty sure unity 8 does not use compiz, but not 100% sure.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                    nope Mir is using Compiz and it shares code with Wayland




                    only for Ubuntu it is
                    Mir doesn't use Compiz because it's not compatible with the specific Xorg hooks that Compiz relies on.
                    Compiz will never be used in a post X world.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                      Mir doesn't use Compiz because it's not compatible with the specific Xorg hooks that Compiz relies on.
                      Compiz will never be used in a post X world.
                      how do you think they build the compositor?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marciocr View Post
                        The cases are totally different.

                        The "Mir haters" must understand that Wayland isn't a display server. No DE will adopt Wayland as his display server. The DEs teams will build a display server that will implement Wayland protocol.
                        that only speaks in favour of wayland. getting rid of one layer and getting more with the roots gives one more power. sadly, as far as DE go, as much as i don't like to admit it, but with recent atrocities in gnome usability and KDE not being ready for wayland prime... ubuntu with unity holds advantage. still, there is 0 chance for me to opt for Mir or Unity though.

                        as much as i'm hyped about wayland, i also get downright sad when i think i'll be reverting to 90s era where my desktop looked like museum of various looking toolkits. right now selection is really bad. most gtk apps were completely destroyed by gnome HIG down to being complete crap (gedit, epiphany...) and last months all i'm doing is searching for sane replacements in order to be ready for wayland

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                          nope Mir is using Compiz
                          No
                          Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                          and it shares code with Wayland
                          No
                          Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                          Unity8 was
                          No
                          Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                          how do you think they build the compositor?
                          By paying developers to write code, what do you think?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Attentäter View Post
                            how do you think they build the compositor?
                            it is my understanding that either MIR or unity 8 is the compositor, like built in...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pajn View Post
                              yes

                              yes

                              yes

                              By ripping out Compiz's compositor, what do you think?
                              i fix that for you

                              they used code from Wayland and Compiz even the SDL Mir code is using Wayland paths

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