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    Phoronix: Shuttleworth Challenged Over Mir Comments

    On Friday when announcing the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS codename, Mark Shuttleworth ruffled some feathers by making some critical comments about the Linux users in opposition to Canonical's Mir Display Server. KDE's Aaron Siego has now challenged Mark to a public and live debate over Mir vs. Wayland...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ5MDI

  • #2
    I hope Mark or somebody at Canonical will take the challenge. Not because I want to see them fail, but because it would be very interesting.
    I usually love the things Canonical comes up with, the only exception yet was the shopping lense desaster.

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    • #3
      Hope this debate takes place, will be quite interested to hear it.

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      • #4
        Oh god this is pure gold. Michael when will you start selling popcorn?

        I was barely checking the old episode "one guy insults other guys by calling them political loonies", now we have the sequel, "one guy has delusions of grandeur to think everyone is using G+, and not only G+, but following his personal feed in it as well".

        *nom nom* waiting for episode 3: revenge of the shit.

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        • #5
          KDE Steps forward straight against Canonical!
          Very very interesting! And I am very happy that KDE devs have the guts to deal with M.S. face to face!

          The spirit of Steve Jobs flies over Canonical... not quite a good sign for Linux I am afraid...

          Well done KDE! You were always my favorite DE since Mandrake 9.1 days! You worth it guys!

          Curaga is correct! Pop corn should be included in the Phoronix Premium accounts now Michael!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by curaga View Post
            I was barely checking the old episode "one guy insults other guys by calling them political loonies", now we have the sequel, "one guy has delusions of grandeur to think everyone is using G+, and not only G+, but following his personal feed in it as well".
            What makes you think Aaron expects everyone to follow his personal feed? For all you know, he's made the challenge directly to Mark and only announced it on G+. And in either case, since Bacon was involved, it's likely to reach the ears of Marky Mark in any case.

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            • #7
              popcorn and bacon, mmmmmm yum

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              • #8
                So, once again, Shuttleworth goes full dickhead and Jono Bacon expects everyone to keep quiet about it... and in his generosity, he even starts #friendlyfriday to really show off how good he is!

                Seriously, right now I am so glad to have wiped anything *Canonical from computers in my environment.

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                • #9
                  So *we* are the open-source tea party? So *we* suffer from the NIH syndrome?

                  /laugh
                  That's a 0/10 troll attempt, Mr. Shuttleworth. C'mon, you can do better.

                  Originally posted by rrae View Post
                  I hope Mark or somebody at Canonical will take the challenge.
                  They won't. They're not interested in an open-minded technical discussion. They only want to alienate everyone who understands how operating systems work... except their own employees. Alienate and purge every geek from the Ubuntu community. Their end goal is to sell their products to the clueless, to those who don't know the difference between good and bad concepts in software.
                  Last edited by prodigy_; 10-19-2013, 06:18 AM.

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                  • #10
                    I love how "Tea Party" has quickly become one of the greatest insults available.

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                    • #11
                      First I want to see him smitten in a public debate vs. Poettering over the unnecessary NIH'ed syndrom of the systemd-developers... Hopefully as entertaining as the encounter with Datenwolf.

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                      • #12
                        "My response to that is simple, Mark: let's do this like adults."

                        ...and code to prove your point. Don't waste this energy into further ego discussions.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dee. View Post
                          What makes you think Aaron expects everyone to follow his personal feed? For all you know, he's made the challenge directly to Mark and only announced it on G+. And in either case, since Bacon was involved, it's likely to reach the ears of Marky Mark in any case.
                          His words were superficially to Mark, but it's obvious he really wants a media splash. Even though Mark is on G+, he probably isn't following every random guy.

                          Thus that platform is a bad place to do either: the news outlets aren't following him (= no public splash), Mark isn't following him (= message won't get directly to him).

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                          • #14
                            The KDE guys have been against Mir since day one. Even the guys working on Kubuntu have been attacking it via the mailing list; so it's not unexpected. Personally I don't want either one, Mir or Wayland. Just seems like another unnecessary layer. If both parties joined and everyone worked on XOrg, something wonderful may have happened. But Open Source suffers from "I want to do my own thing" syndrome.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by curaga View Post
                              His words were superficially to Mark, but it's obvious he really wants a media splash. Even though Mark is on G+, he probably isn't following every random guy.

                              Thus that platform is a bad place to do either: the news outlets aren't following him (= no public splash), Mark isn't following him (= message won't get directly to him).
                              It's all over Reddit and Slashdot now as well. If he wanted public splash it seems to be making waves in the usual places. If he wanted to reach Mark Shuttleworth I'm sure it get to him. Mark has responded in the past to G+ posts.

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