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    Phoronix: Ubuntu 13.10 Desktop Will Not Use XMir By Default

    While the Ubuntu 13.10 desktop was expected to ship with Mir/XMir by default for supported configurations, this is no longer going to happen. Ubuntu developers conceded today that Mir/XMir isn't ready for desktop configurations when Ubuntu 13.10 ships later this month...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ3NDQ

  • #2
    grabs popcorn

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    • #3
      I expected this. Just as I expect they won't be ready for Mir in 14.04 like they've been saying either.

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      • #4
        This is great news. The latest Mir/XMir builds finally ran without big issues for me but it was still using the software cursor which was slightly slower and my low-end notebook seemed to have minor performance issues. They can sort it out now for the next release and we don't lose out on anything anyway. Ubuntu 13.10 will be a great release!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by xeekei View Post
          I expected this. Just as I expect they won't be ready for Mir in 14.04 like they've been saying either.
          This is what I don't get. If Mir needs extra time and they really want it in for the LTS, why not simply push back the date and have 14.06 or something?

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          • #6
            Why is Canonical ruining Ubuntu?

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            • #7
              Good news. They should have planned a much longer "testing phase" to begin with. Now it looks like Mir will have a bit more time to bake before being fed to everyone.

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              • #8
                Sad Trombone

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                  This is what I don't get. If Mir needs extra time and they really want it in for the LTS, why not simply push back the date and have 14.06 or something?
                  ^ this.

                  Seriously, all major consumer linux distros should adapt a rolling or half-rolling release model.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                    This is what I don't get. If Mir needs extra time and they really want it in for the LTS, why not simply push back the date and have 14.06 or something?
                    What I don't get is why they had to make this stopgap with XMir at all. They should just ship Mir when it's ready, instead of pulling a hack on all users. I'm really glad 13.10 will not ship XMir by default, this means I don't need to warn my friends about it (it doesn't affect me directly because Xubuntu decided the same a while ago).

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                    • #11
                      This is amazing. Now Ubuntu won't enjoy any headstart, and Fedora 20 with the Wayland Technical Preview will become the first next-gen Linux display system to reach GA.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by intellivision View Post
                        This is what I don't get. If Mir needs extra time and they really want it in for the LTS, why not simply push back the date and have 14.06 or something?
                        April 9, 2014, is the EOL of Windows XP. Ubuntu 14.04 will already be a little late (I think the current schedule calls for an April 20 release). Pushing it back by several months should be out of the question.

                        I think that, from a business perspective, rather than push back 14.04 several months to make sure that it offers a solid Mir experience, Canonical should delay plans to deploy Mir by default until 14.10 and instead focus on getting 14.04 out the door EARLIER, hopefully before April 9, to better leverage corporate IT's need to replace Windows XP.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Serge View Post
                          April 9, 2014, is the EOL of Windows XP. Ubuntu 14.04 will already be a little late (I think the current schedule calls for an April 20 release). Pushing it back by several months should be out of the question.

                          I think that, from a business perspective, rather than push back 14.04 several months to make sure that it offers a solid Mir experience, Canonical should delay plans to deploy Mir by default until 14.10 and instead focus on getting 14.04 out the door EARLIER, hopefully before April 9, to better leverage corporate IT's need to replace Windows XP.
                          They stopped caring about desktop market share a while ago. That's why they closed the bug #1 after all.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Serge View Post
                            I think that, from a business perspective, rather than push back 14.04 several months to make sure that it offers a solid Mir experience, Canonical should delay plans to deploy Mir by default until 14.10 and instead focus on getting 14.04 out the door EARLIER, hopefully before April 9, to better leverage corporate IT's need to replace Windows XP.
                            We talked about it at the last UDS but this use case was dismissed because the premise was questioned.. We don't think that there are some XP users who will just switch on the day support expires.. Those that will switch would likely want to switch (months) before the day it goes EOL.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gQuigs View Post
                              We talked about it at the last UDS but this use case was dismissed because the premise was questioned.. We don't think that there are some XP users who will just switch on the day support expires.. Those that will switch would likely want to switch (months) before the day it goes EOL.
                              That's a good point. I was thinking that there is mindshare to be gained by being ready as a Windows XP replacement the day of or before XP's EOL, but you'd be sacrificing other kinds of mindshare by delaying Mir even more, so I guess that's not really worth the cost.

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