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  • #16
    Originally posted by who_me View Post
    So Mir and X will only be in 13.10. 14.04 should ship with Mir only.
    Not exactly. Read the actual announcement, 14.04 is XMir only

    The real news, IMO, is that they pushed back deployment of the full Mir stack to 14.10. Just like so many here said they would.
    Last edited by Scimmia; 06-27-2013, 01:01 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by who_me View Post
      Actually you may want to read that again. Here:



      So Mir and X will only be in 13.10. 14.04 should ship with Mir only. So starting to ship Mir in 13.10 makes sense. It gets 6 months worth of testing and hopefully most of the kinks ironed out (I really hope so). I'll end up using it on a spare drive so I can test and send bug reports.

      I run a lot of games with crossover(wine) and I'm expecting some breakage on that front. Luckily, there still some years before 12.04 goes EOL so I'm relaxed...
      Nop for the 14.04 it's Mir + xMir so I think no problems with X applications.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TheOne View Post
        It seems that everything is going pretty well, I guess that haters will have to drink their words
        Yeah, and once your dad comes back from Canada, we'll ALL see that your dad is stronger and smarter and richer than ALL the other dads.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
          So, are they going to release 13.10 with Mir and then 14.04 with X? If that's the case, what if someone wants to upgrade form 13.10 to 14.04? I feel like it'd make more sense to just have a separate 14.04 non-LTS release, which will include mir.
          The idea is not going back to X, but having tested it in real life for that release. On more cynic words, 13.10 users will be the lab rats.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by r1348 View Post
            Sure dude, enjoy your crashes to console!
            Let That Software Who Is Without Bugs Cast The First Stone

            Every piece of software isn't bugs free, what matters is that they get fixed.

            Originally posted by dee. View Post
            Yeah, and once your dad comes back from Canada, we'll ALL see that your dad is stronger and smarter and richer than ALL the other dads.
            Come on we are all family, Richard Stallman the grandpa, Linus Torvalds the uncle and Mark, yeahh you already guess it
            Last edited by TheOne; 06-27-2013, 01:20 PM.

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            • #21
              I get two things from this:

              1. Mir is moving along at a good pace.

              2. People have been wise not to trust anything Canonical has said about its plans and timelines.

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              • #22
                So how does this affect those of us that want to use proprietary video drivers? Assuming nVidia/AMD don't have Mir drivers by October, we need to force the X mode and then install/use the X drivers? And then next April, if there are still no Mir drivers, we are SOL?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by r1348 View Post
                  Sure dude, enjoy your crashes to console!
                  it can't be worse than my experiences with kde 2, 3 and the early 4. we called it the windows of the linux world. but i heared kde got stable after a decade...

                  edit: yes i know mir and kde are two different things but that's not the point.

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                  • #24
                    As a Kubuntu and Nvidia blob user, the best news for me is Kubuntu will stick to Xorg unless Wayland is ready. I really wish Unity and Mir goodluck but I don't like it. The only concern of mine is if Ubuntu's patches for Qt and Xorg for running mir break K apps on Ubuntu.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by devguy View Post
                      So how does this affect those of us that want to use proprietary video drivers? Assuming nVidia/AMD don't have Mir drivers by October, we need to force the X mode and then install/use the X drivers? And then next April, if there are still no Mir drivers, we are SOL?
                      Well, according to Oliver Ries:

                      Jeremy Bicha: "How do you expect things to work for users who need proprietary
                      graphics drivers in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? Do the existing NVIDIA and ATI
                      drivers work with XMir yet?"


                      Ries: "We are committed to not regress anybody in 14.04, the availability of binary drivers is one major component to that"

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                      • #26
                        Clever move. Unload all the breakage on the small fraction that uses open-source drivers, while the majority will still use the proven X server. This way they can iron out the bugs without everyone being affected.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
                          Clever move. Unload all the breakage on the small fraction that uses open-source drivers, while the majority will still use the proven X server. This way they can iron out the bugs without everyone being affected.
                          Small fraction? As in every single Intel user, which would be a large portion of the user base?

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                          • #28
                            13.10

                            if ubuntu is 13:10 problematic continue to use 13:04, is simple for me. after 13.04 i only use unity 7 and i very pleasead.

                            i see mir improving and even dee cant say the opposite lol

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                            • #29
                              Very disappointed to see they won't make the full transition to Mir by 14.10, and it won't be in 14.04 LTS. I guess it was kind of expected, though. They were never going to finalize it in such a short amount of time until the next LTS. Still disappointed. I wonder what this means for their mobile devices.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by zanny View Post
                                It seems odd that 14.04 is going to be hugely unstable because its running Mir. But according to the announcement it is strictly Mir from this point on, and they remove X from the repo entirely in 14.04.

                                With the amount of testing Mir and Unity 8 get I would guess it will eb less buggy than Compiz/Unity 7 by 14.04. Actually it would be hard to make it more buggy.

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