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  • What happened to actually talking about the story this thread sprung from, totally hijacked by a couple of chest thumping neckbeards... >.>
    Last edited by jalyst; 03-11-2013, 04:39 AM.

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    • Originally posted by jalyst View Post
      What happened to actually talking about the story this thread sprung from, totally hijacked by a couple of chest thumping neckbeards... >.>
      The story has been hashed and rehashed and argued about on 16 different threads that all say the same exact thing if you really want to continue discussing it I'm sure there are a few on that topic on here that are still burning with the same arguments being used by both sides and nobody getting much of anywhere. If you want to read a summary of the discussion on the story just look at the first few pages of this or any of the related threads, the rest of the pages will look the same. I don't think it's really a loss if we hijack this one into the age old battle between the practitioner and the theorist.

      TL;DR:
      Side A: Canonical committed foul play;
      Side B: There being more display servers is fragmentation and that's bad
      Side C: Choice is good
      Side D: There was no foul play with Canonical's actions so stop being "childish"
      Last edited by Luke_Wolf; 03-11-2013, 05:20 AM.

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      • Originally posted by jalyst View Post
        What happened to actually talking about the story this thread sprung from, totally hijacked by a couple of chest thumping neckbeards... >.>
        Ah, neckbeard: the bandying cry of the modern anti-intellectual element.

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        • Hmm

          When looking how "open" canonical maintaines their current in-house software stack like Unity, I can only hope RedHat+Suse+... will start to invest into Wayland.
          Otherwise we might end up with something similar to Android on the Linux desktop, which I am not looking forward to :/

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          • Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
            Ah, neckbeard: the bandying cry of the modern anti-intellectual element.
            Watch out or he'll call you a virgin who lives in his mom's basement. How would you ever survive the emotional trauma?

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            • Jupiter Broadcasting had a great show and talked about the Mir and Wayland debate and they put it pretty clear.

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              • Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post
                I don't think it's really a loss if we hijack this one....
                It is because that's what threads are for, you know, discussing/reading subject matter that the thread was created for.
                Anyway no "biggy" now that the thread's almost dead, but if the thread remains active, hopefully it stays on-topic going forward.

                Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View Post
                Ah, neckbeard: the bandying cry of the modern anti-intellectual element.
                You like that one, good stuff....

                Originally posted by dee. View Post
                Watch out or he'll call you a virgin who lives in his mom's basement. How would you ever survive the emotional trauma?
                Now now, no Neckbeard tag-teaming, it was a perfectly warranted/legit protest, time to crawl back into Mum's basement now

                Originally posted by Linuxhippy View Post
                When looking how "open" canonical maintaines their current in-house software stack like Unity, I can only hope RedHat+Suse+... will start to invest into Wayland.
                Otherwise we might end up with something similar to Android on the Linux desktop, which I am not looking forward to :/
                +1
                Ah now that's more like it, more postings like this is the way to go folks (or counter points of course).
                Last edited by jalyst; 03-12-2013, 01:20 PM. Reason: typo

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                • Originally posted by dee. View Post
                  Watch out or he'll call you a virgin who lives in his mom's basement. How would you ever survive the emotional trauma?


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                  • Originally posted by e8hffff View Post


                    Jupiter Broadcasting had a great show and talked about the Mir and Wayland debate and they put it pretty clear.

                    The LAS is incredible narrow minded and with GoDaddy as their backer it speaks volumes.. At least they got rid of that asshole Lunduke. Anyhow they all but failed in highlighting the negatives. Passing mentions at beast. Pretty biased overall especially with the guy who uses Ubuntu to make money... Yeah no bias there. Nice try, try again.

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                    • Originally posted by nightmarex View Post
                      The LAS is incredible narrow minded and with GoDaddy as their backer it speaks volumes.. At least they got rid of that asshole Lunduke. Anyhow they all but failed in highlighting the negatives. Passing mentions at beast. Pretty biased overall especially with the guy who uses Ubuntu to make money... Yeah no bias there. Nice try, try again.
                      I couldn't agree more. These guys are crazy.
                      Unfortunately, they also seem to have some influence on a not so small audience.

                      If you don't want to watch the full thing, give them a try here:

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYGjcNmeDY&t=54m32s
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYGjcNmeDY&t=1h1m58s

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                      • Originally posted by nightmarex View Post
                        The LAS is incredible narrow minded and with GoDaddy as their backer it speaks volumes.. At least they got rid of that asshole Lunduke. Anyhow they all but failed in highlighting the negatives. Passing mentions at beast. Pretty biased overall especially with the guy who uses Ubuntu to make money... Yeah no bias there. Nice try, try again.
                        Lennart Poettering is of course so much better. Oh wait...

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                        • Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                          Lennart Poettering is of course so much better. Oh wait...
                          I don't think anyone is trying to use Lennart for a basis of argumentation on this point... Aaron Seigo maybe, Martin Graesslin maybe, Adam or Rahul maybe, etc... Lennart? no...

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                          • I have no problem with the LAS guys and I think they usually do a good and entertaining show, but this time I think they failed to properly cover the issue. None of the real issues about Mir were addressed.

                            But what can you expect - they're sponsored by System76, they wouldn't want to say anything that would upset their sponsor too much, and System76 wouldn't want to say anything that would upset Canonical too much, being as their business depends on selling their product.

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                            • Originally posted by ворот93 View Post
                              Lennart Poettering is of course so much better. Oh wait...
                              Yes he is, because Lennart's interests are purely his own. Plus he actually has the talent to mostly back up a lot of his assholery.

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