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  • #71
    Originally posted by JS987 View Post
    Gtk is written in C which doesn't support OOP features like classes, methods, constructors, destructors, polymorphism, inheritance
    and features like templates, operator overloading
    Which means that it compiles in 0.05% of the time and takes 1% of the disk space

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    • #72
      You can use GObject with gtk and c

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Akka View Post
        You can use GObject with gtk and c
        GObject is retarded emulation of OOP.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by JS987 View Post
          Gtk is written in C which doesn't support OOP features like classes, methods, constructors, destructors, polymorphism, inheritance
          and features like templates, operator overloading
          C doesn't have direct language support (as in "syntactic sugar") for those things, but it doesn't prevent you from using (some of) them, and that is what happens in Gtk, which is based on the GObject object implementation.

          (And if you want to use a language with syntactic sugar for OOP, you could always use Vala instead.)

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          • #75
            Originally posted by JanC View Post
            C doesn't have direct language support (as in "syntactic sugar") for those things, but it doesn't prevent you from using (some of) them, and that is what happens in Gtk, which is based on the GObject object implementation.
            (And if you want to use a language with syntactic sugar for OOP, you could always use Vala instead.)
            If you use GObject, doesn't mean you use real OOP. GObject is only fake emulation of OOP using functional programming.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
              There is a very strange trend towards specialisation that is very new. It used to be that all distros offered tweaked KDE and GNOME desktops for the user to choose. Now it seems like each distro wants its own desktop in order to provide a certain kind of experience.

              GNOME is RedHat's private desktop nowadays.
              Unity is Ubuntu's desktop.
              Cinnamon is Mint's desktop.

              You can run them on other distros, but it's clear who does all the development and decides the direction.
              Wrong. Ubuntu still uses gnome, it's just by creating gnome-shell gnome developers let canonical create their own shell not whole DE. Cinamon is same gnome. Please just because it has different name it doesn't mean it absolutely new thing...

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              • #77
                Originally posted by JS987 View Post
                GObject is retarded emulation of OOP.
                I have never tried GObjects. But how do I identity real OOP. It is possible to create something like OOP in pure c. Many c project do that. Is that real OOP?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Akka View Post
                  I have never tried GObjects. But how do I identity real OOP. It is possible to create something like OOP in pure c. Many c project do that. Is that real OOP?
                  Well there is no real or fake to OOP, OOP is simply the recognition that language is based upon objects and applying that to programming. That said languages can be either more or less accommodating to standard OOP design principles, which plain C isn't very accommodating for, although it is well worth noting that C++ (which is accommodating) was originally just a bunch of macros on top of C.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Akka View Post
                    I have never tried GObjects. But how do I identity real OOP. It is possible to create something like OOP in pure c. Many c project do that. Is that real OOP?
                    Real OOP languages have keyword class or some equivalent. You can't do real OOP with C as it supports only structure which isn't class.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by JS987 View Post
                      Real OOP languages have keyword class or some equivalent. You can't do real OOP with C as it supports only structure which isn't class.
                      Oh really.

                      So prototype-based languages, like Javascript or Lua, aren't actually "real OOP"?

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