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    Phoronix: Intel GMA X4500HD

    Earlier this month Intel had announced the GMA X4500 series, which is their latest and greatest when it comes to integrated graphics processors. These IGPs were greeted by same-day Linux support (it had actually arrived before the chipset was announced), but it's still next to impossible to find motherboards using the G43 and G45 Chipsets that bear this IGP. Fortunately, however, our friends at Super Micro have come through and we have managed to get our hands on the C2SEA. The Super Micro C2SEA is an ATX motherboard that uses the Intel G45 Chipset in conjunction with an ICH10 Southbridge. This motherboard provides Intel GMA X4500HD graphics with VGA and HDMI interfaces. In this article, we are looking at the performance of this new Intel graphics processor under Linux.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=12671

  • #2
    Great! I was looking forward to this test.

    I ordered Intels DG45ID!

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    • #3
      Wow, this could be misleading for the average Joe:

      ATI HD4500 vs Intel 4500HD
      It wouldn't be so bad if they were neck to neck performance wise.
      I'm wondering how they'll compare.

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      • #4
        great article

        Wonderful news, really and THANK YOU Intel for this great HW *and* SW effort. Finally, waiting for 3D card with reasonable performance for everyday use (I guess PS3 - grade graphics?) and quality open drivers is over. Historically, I had many proprietary blobs in my computer and hated each and every of them with passion: various media codecs, nvidia driver, wifi driver, adobe pdf reader, java jvm, flash, nero... It seems, as soon as I get one of these Centrino 2 X4500HD boxes, Flash plugin is last on this list, waiting for adequate F/OSS replacement. Also, upgrade to 64-bit system should be non-issue in this case.

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        • #5
          I guess PS3 - grade graphics?
          PS3 = Playstation 3?

          If so, not by far. While the PS3 video processor isn't a powerhouse by today's standards (about equivalent to a high-end G70), the X4500HD doesn't even come close

          That said, performance looks very reasonable and driver support is a big plus. I wonder how this piece compares to AMD's integrated HD3200 - any chance for a feature/performance comparison soon?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
            PS3 = Playstation 3?

            If so, not by far. While the PS3 video processor isn't a powerhouse by today's standards (about equivalent to a high-end G70), the X4500HD doesn't even come close
            Radeon X1800 XT (in this test) has equal performance as nVidia 7800 which is inside PS3, so unless somebody present benchmarks, I have no reason to believe PS3 can be much faster then Intel X4500. Also, driver for Intel's new chip is in its first iterations, so lets see how it will improve in time and lets wait for more benchmarks comparing both cards.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mirza View Post
              Radeon X1800 XT (in this test) has equal performance as nVidia 7800 which is inside PS3, so unless somebody present benchmarks, I have no reason to believe PS3 can be much faster then Intel X4500. Also, driver for Intel's new chip is in its first iterations, so lets see how it will improve in time and lets wait for more benchmarks comparing both cards.
              You're talking about intel graphics here. I think it's brave of your to have such high hopes for intel graphics performace. Usually Intel graphics are great for just plain "Working good" but performance is less than average. Though I kinda hope I'm wrong about this one.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlueKoala View Post
                You're talking about intel graphics here. I think it's brave of your to have such high hopes for intel graphics performace.
                I don't have any special hopes regarding any graphic card. I just look at benchmarks and draw conclusions from that. So far, only 2 benchmarks of X4500HD are available on the web (AFAIK) and it looks this card has similar performance to what is inside PS3. That is not quite "high-end" by current standards, but I wouldn't even consider buying additional card, if I had this one integrated inside my chipset. Especially given driver quality.

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                • #9
                  Can't wait for a complete comparison

                  That's funny, I've been watching DirectCanada and NCIX everyday for the past few weeks to see if they get any G45 Mobo's on their sites, and NCIX had this one today.

                  http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...=GA-EG45M-DS2H

                  http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Gigabyte

                  Although they don't have any in stock yet, at least we know they are coming soon.

                  But lately I've been focusing on trying the AM2 based boards, the 780g and GF8200 (don't have a GF8200 yet, but I will be ordering one soon), and I even jumped the gun last year getting the 690g. And even have a BE-2350 and a 4850e.

                  I am MOST interested to see the power consumption comparisons for all of these chipsets in idle and while playing some H.264 content. My HTPC is running 24/7. Hoping to somehow be able to play uncompressed 1080p content in linux with one of these chipsets, I really want to get away from depending on Windows for my HTPC.

                  Mythbuntu 8.10 is going to be awesome on all these new boards.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mirza View Post
                    Radeon X1800 XT (in this test) has equal performance as nVidia 7800 which is inside PS3, so unless somebody present benchmarks, I have no reason to believe PS3 can be much faster then Intel X4500. Also, driver for Intel's new chip is in its first iterations, so lets see how it will improve in time and lets wait for more benchmarks comparing both cards.
                    The PS3 doesn't use any computer graphics card, it uses a special one made specially for it, though it is in the later 7 series.

                    Also this is misleading
                    Originally posted by the article
                    In addition, once Gallium3D goes mainstream with users they will be able to benefit from a generic GPU video decoding, which relies upon the graphics processor's shaders.
                    That is a generic interface for gallium drivers, to have video decoding, but it is limited to the specs, for now, that means XvMC, so it will only provide MPEG-2/-4(I think XvMC supports this???), unless VAAPI comes or XvMC is extended

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                    • #11
                      Radeon X1800 XT (in this test) has equal performance as nVidia 7800 which is inside PS3, so unless somebody present benchmarks, I have no reason to believe PS3 can be much faster then Intel X4500.
                      That was quite funny, thanks!

                      If you recall, the OSS drivers for R500 are far from mature. As the article noted, switching to fglrx roughly doubled performance (and as we all know, fglrx is not the most performant of drivers).

                      No, a shared-memory chip with a maximum theoretical bandwidth of 12.8GB/s (shared the CPU) is not able to compete with a high-end discrete card. What you are seeing is an artifact of the R500 driver immaturity, nothing more. You cannot really draw conclusions regarding chip performance from that

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                      • #12
                        Why were there no comparison benchmarks for the Intel X3100 chipset, which was mentioned several times in the article?

                        It's important to provide results showing how Intel hardware and drivers have progressed, especially since the X3100 is a very common chip in laptops and desktop motherboards.

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                        • #13
                          nvidia graphics comparisons

                          I really hoped to see comparisons to nvidia cards too. Also it would have been nice to compare to fglrx too, because even though it's closed it's probable that a great lot of people will use them. I think I've read on wikipedia that X4500 performance would be on par with nvidia 8400GS, would be nice to see that confirmed for performance in linux...
                          Regards,

                          Michael

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                          • #14
                            Audio over HDMI?

                            Does this motherboard (and the chipset too for that matter) support High Definition Audio over HDMI?

                            Also, if the hardware does, does latest ALSA and/or OSS support High Definition Audio over HDMI for it?

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
                            HDMI supports 8 channel uncompressed digital audio at 192 kHz sample rate with 24 bits/sample as well as compressed audio streams such as Dolby Digital and DTS. HDMI supports up to 8 channels of one-bit DSD audio, which is used on Super Audio CDs, at rates up to 4x that of Super Audio CD. With version 1.3, HDMI also supports lossless compressed audio streams such as Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.

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                            • #15
                              If the Phoronix guys used something other than Ubuntu, they might realize that the openSUSE Build Service is perfect for something like this. They just happen to have an Xorg repository which grabs snapshots (from the main X components, to Mesa, to drivers) every couple days. It's like a gift from $DIETY for those of us tracking radeonhd and intel drivers.

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