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  • #16
    I think in this case the choice of comparison cards and immature drivers for most of those cards makes the data rather inconclusive. There needed to be at least a comparison to x3100 and also a comparison with AMD IGPs(Since its about comparing the IGPs the data would actually be relevant). At least some results with fglrx would have been interesting. Also why not include Nvidia products as well?
    Originally posted by mycroes View Post
    I think I've read on wikipedia that X4500 performance would be on par with nvidia 8400GS, would be nice to see that confirmed for performance in linux...
    Regards,

    Michael
    Don't hold your breath. Any IGP is going to get limited by their memory interface. Also whats that bit about the IGP hving both unified and vertex shaders about? What's the point of having both? Or are Intel just calling the pixel shaders unified and have vertex shaders as well?
    Last edited by Raven3x7; 08-02-2008, 12:31 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jeffro-tull View Post
      They just happen to have an Xorg repository which grabs snapshots (from the main X components, to Mesa, to drivers) every couple days. It's like a gift from $DIETY for those of us tracking radeonhd and intel drivers.
      Gentoo has got something similiar as well. But Michael doesn't seem to like Gentoo, as he rarely mentions it anywhere.

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      • #18
        I'm afraid the x11perf numbers are rather meaningless without more details about the respective setups. Specifically, I suspect the Radeon numbers were obtained with XAA instead of EXA (thus no RENDER acceleration, making the operation measured a software fallback) and/or the DRI disabled. With xf86-video-ati Git, EXA and the DRI enabled, I'm getting 2390.0/sec on an old Mobility Radeon 9700 even with compiz running. At least the X800XL and the X1800XT should be able to beat that easily.

        Not to mention that something like -aa10text should be more relevant in practice.

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        • #19
          you mean Shader Model 4.0, not 2.0.

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          • #20
            and whan about HD video acceleration for X4500HD ? is it possible that in this year the Intel Clear Video Technology will implement in linux drivers ? what need for it ? vaapi ?

            new motheboards from Intel with G45 chipset - special for HTPC
            http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...oard/index.htm

            DG45FC Intel® G45 LGA775 mini-ITX
            DG45ID Intel® G45 LGA775 Micro-ATX
            Last edited by Goga777; 08-08-2008, 07:28 AM.

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            • #21
              new motheboards from Intel with G45 chipset - special for HTPC
              http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...oard/index.htm

              DG45FC Intel® G45 LGA775 mini-ITX
              DG45ID Intel® G45 LGA775 Micro-ATX

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Goga777 View Post
                and whan about HD video acceleration for X4500HD ? is it possible that in this year the Intel Clear Video Technology will implement in linux drivers ? what need for it ? vaapi ?
                No, for Linux Intel only provides device drivers which support XvMC (and that only accelerates MPEG-2).
                http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org
                No graphic manufactures does yet provide device drivers that accelerate H.263 or H.264 video decoding.
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS

                Development of VA API seem to have stalled(?), though recently there's been talk about extending XvMC.

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                • #23
                  Howe come this new Intel card with a new (young) driver can beat hi-end cards that have had the driver around for so much longer?

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                  • #24
                    Current suspicion is that the 2D tests were run with XAA on the Radeon cards, which means mostly software fallbacks. Not sure though. The X1300 and X1800 3D support is also pretty recent - notice the X800 (which has been around for a while) was usually faster on 3D.
                    Last edited by bridgman; 08-08-2008, 12:42 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Been looking at the new line of Dell Laptops, the E-Series, and they utilize the new intel graphics chip. As a linux user, hopefully the Mandriva 2009 and Fedora 10 distros will have out of box support.

                      http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=bsd&cs=04

                      It appears this laptop is available for purchase now, though I had to search on dell e laptop to find the product page.

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                      • #26
                        In my area, G45 is out and it costs a BOMB. I doubt this would be able to compete with the supposedly cheaper nVidia 730i series motherboards. I mean, HOW can GMA X4500HD stand a chance against 9300GS and 9400GS ?

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                        • #27
                          i know that in the united states, bombs are distributed to children freely, but thats not so across the world.

                          G45 isnt really too expensive, and you might as how it can stand a chance against highend(LOL) nvidia stuff? well.. even intels i810 does, hell, even software rendering has faster 2d than new nvidia stuff..

                          not to mentation stability and support..

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                          • #28
                            first tests of G45 chipset
                            http://www.hkepc.com/?id=1510&page=5&fs=idn

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Goga777 View Post
                              I hope phoronix does a similar review, but with the following changes:

                              1. 9950 instead of 9750 because the former is equal to Q6600, not the later.
                              2. Bench both Catalyst drivers and oss drivers for 780G.

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                              • #30
                                new MSI's Montevina Mini-ITX Motherboard
                                http://www.mini-itx.com/2008/07/16/m...tx-motherboard

                                MS-9818 Specifications

                                Supported processors: 45nm Socket P Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo/Celeron processors
                                FSB: 1066/800/667 MHz
                                Chipset: Intel GM45 North Bridge;Intel ICH9M-E South Bridge (with integrated TPM)
                                Memory: 2x DDR2 800/667MHz SO-DIMM (up to 4GB max RAM)
                                Graphics: Intel GMA X4500 Graphics with DirectX 10 support
                                Display Outputs: VGA, DVI-D, HDMI, LVDS
                                Audio: Realtek ALC888 5.1 Channel HD Audio; 6W Class-D Amplifier
                                LAN: 2x Gigabit LAN ports (82567LM & 82574L)
                                Storage:4x SATA II with RAID 0/1/5/10; 1x 44pin IDE
                                Peripheral Connectivity: 4x USB 2.0 ports + 4x additional USB 2.0 headers; 1x RS-232/RS-422/RS-485 + 5x additional COM headers
                                Expansion: 1x PCI; 1x Mini PCIe; 1x PCIe x1; 1x Compact Flash (underneath board)
                                Size: 17cm x 17cm

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