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    Phoronix: Intel Haswell HD Graphics 4600 vs. AMD Radeon Graphics On Linux

    Already published on Phoronix have been Intel HD Graphics 4600 benchmarks on Ubuntu Linux from the Intel Core i7 4770K "Haswell" processor and compared against previous generations of Intel HD Graphics. Being benchmarked today is the Intel HD Graphics 4600 on Linux compared against various AMD Radeon graphics cards using both the open and closed-source graphics drivers.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=18794

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    Again only the old 3d Applications ....

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    • #3
      It would be interesting to see AMD Richland compared as well, to get a comparison against the integrated graphics of Intel's competitor.

      Also, OpenCL.

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      • #4
        R600sb not used yet again. I think the benchmarks would be more worthwhile if you enabled it for the cards that support it.

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        • #5
          I do not understand anything. Are all those AMD discrete cards? Where are the APU's?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sykobee View Post
            It would be interesting to see AMD Richland compared as well, to get a comparison against the integrated graphics of Intel's competitor.
            If only AMD would send out the hardware...

            Originally posted by sykobee View Post
            Also, OpenCL.
            Intel OpenCL (Beignet) really doesn't work yet..
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nille View Post
              Again only the old 3d Applications ....
              TIL Xonotic is an old 3D application.

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              • #8
                So it looks like for an open source solution, the Ivy "R" CPUs might be the best choice overall, with the 5200.

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                • #9
                  Great article! Its nice to see how the OSS radeon gfx are fast approaching speed parity with the closed-source solution. One thing that would be interesting is a compatibility test between OSS & Closed Drivers on Radeon. On Ubuntu 13.04, I tried the OSS drivers on my 4670 card, and was very dismayed that many games were just not compatible with it (ie. would crash or just not load), especially many of the HiB games as well as many Wine games.

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                  • #10
                    Beautifu, thanksl! I know you don't have an a10-6800k handy, but i would be nice to compare Haswell against with the Radeon HD 7660D from the AMD APUs, perhaps against the a10-5800k. Same thing: open source and closed source, for Catalyst

                    It is great to see how the open source stack progressed for AMD, though Intel is ways ahead (it is fast, and rich in features, I think that made my choice for my next processor, since I only need moderate graphics, and an APU is enough - i5 haswell seems to hit the spot for me).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by remm View Post
                      So it looks like for an open source solution, the Ivy "R" CPUs might be the best choice overall, with the 5200.
                      SB-600 shader optimizer not used. For AMD (Michael uses Intel CPU) - ondemand governor must be tuned. Kernel must be patched for AMD APUs on desktop to allow walking past TDP clocks. And so on.
                      Radeon driver currently has a lot of options not set from default.
                      And ofc dynamic power management is absent for AMD. So, yes, I would dump up the opensource performance a bit(+20%?) but due to PM, going with Intel in midrange is a wiser choice.

                      Originally posted by gururise View Post
                      Great article! Its nice to see how the OSS radeon gfx are fast approaching speed parity with the closed-source solution. One thing that would be interesting is a compatibility test between OSS & Closed Drivers on Radeon. On Ubuntu 13.04, I tried the OSS drivers on my 4670 card, and was very dismayed that many games were just not compatible with it (ie. would crash or just not load), especially many of the HiB games as well as many Wine games.
                      Oh, Ugh-buntu. You would need to build MESA and radeon from GIT, build kernel at least 3.10, play with options a bit, don't forget to install S3TC and then your 4670 with OSS will have same performance as catalyst. Still... if you have chance, better go with Intel 4600 CPU or higher. But again, a lot will be needed to be built manually in any case due to urge for the lastest code, Intel will need less fiddling and will have full automatic "power gear transmission" . Or wait 1 year+ till Ubuntu catches up. But then, there gonna be Mir and a lot of breakage. So, do something good today - change the distro
                      Last edited by brosis; 06-17-2013, 11:48 AM.

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                      • #12
                        AMD, where is your dyn PM ?

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                        • #13
                          You just prove that AMD steeling FPS. An HD4870(1200Gflops) card has the same FPS with an HD6570(600Gflops) card. And an HD7970(3.8Tflops@32bit) card has the same FPS with an GTX680(3.2Tflops@64bit or 6.4Tflops@32bit). And the thing is that all that happened in just 1-3 Catalyst releases.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by artivision View Post
                            You just prove that AMD steeling FPS. An HD4870(1200Gflops) card has the same FPS with an HD6570(600Gflops) card. And an HD7970(3.8Tflops@32bit) card has the same FPS with an GTX680(3.2Tflops@64bit or 6.4Tflops@32bit). And the thing is that all that happened in just 1-3 Catalyst releases.
                            The games michael tests don't usually require any gflops at all, they are largely streaming tests to see how fast you can transfer data from the cpu to the gpu - at least for the faster gpu hardware.
                            Last edited by smitty3268; 06-17-2013, 12:41 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Michael, can i ask why you didn't just set the proper environment vars for Unigine?

                              Since you clearly know what they are? It's a fair comparison to Intel, since those are just the same thing the intel driver does by default when it detects a Unigine app running.

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