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  • #16
    Originally posted by artivision View Post
    You just prove that AMD steeling FPS.
    No, the Game Engines are only old.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Michael View Post
      If only AMD would send out the hardware...
      Michael, I tried to PM you about this but you've exceeded your storage quota! I'll e-mail you directly instead.

      Tim

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      • #18
        Originally posted by twriter View Post
        Michael, I tried to PM you about this but you've exceeded your storage quota! I'll e-mail you directly instead.

        Tim
        Thanks. You can email me at Michael at Phoronix.com. For some reason my forum account always says full even though its empty.
        Michael Larabel
        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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        • #19
          Originally posted by brosis View Post
          SB-600 shader optimizer not used. For AMD (Michael uses Intel CPU) - ondemand governor must be tuned. Kernel must be patched for AMD APUs on desktop to allow walking past TDP clocks. And so on.
          Radeon driver currently has a lot of options not set from default.
          And ofc dynamic power management is absent for AMD. So, yes, I would dump up the opensource performance a bit(+20%?) but due to PM, going with Intel in midrange is a wiser choice.
          Cool ... So I own a HD7870, nobody with an ounce of sanity should buy AMD, period.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by remm View Post
            Cool ... So I own a HD7870, nobody with an ounce of sanity should buy AMD, period.
            Nonsense.

            People have different requirements and expectations and the free Radeon drivers have come a very long way and are nowadays seriously approaching feature-completeness.

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            • #21
              I'm really looking forward to seeing some benchmarks from the AMD APUs if/when you get the time and hardware to do so. Hopefully by then kernel 3.10 will be out as well to see how that improves things!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by remm View Post
                Cool ... So I own a HD7870, nobody with an ounce of sanity should buy AMD, period.
                Under windows - they are all closed source. So there it comes to performance/price. Granted you are ok with ms and its "os". For older hardware, there is near zero chance.
                Under Linux - it depends upon your needs. Low-mid - Haswell; low-mid and okay with catalyst caveats - AMD APU; mid-high and opensource - AMD; mid-high and 3D performance - probably Nvidia. Older hardware would very probably work well to acceptable; f.e. I have P4 with 845 IGP from 2002. It works in full hd with compositing.....

                If you want opensource driver, but are not okay to be confronted with bugs and to seek ways to solve them, then southern islands hardware is definitely not for you.

                Originally posted by MWisBest View Post
                I'm really looking forward to seeing some benchmarks from the AMD APUs if/when you get the time and hardware to do so. Hopefully by then kernel 3.10 will be out as well to see how that improves things!
                Check this thread out, no need to wait. Although, if you are on mobile platform, it won't be so sweet...
                Last edited by brosis; 06-17-2013, 04:59 PM.

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                • #23
                  Wow, r600g really shines here, especially on Nexuiz/Xonotic. Especially since it's not even using the optimisations.

                  The HDG 4600 isn't too impressive, though. It seems to be not too far off from HDG 4000. Although it's still early, so I'd expect it to climb a bit higher later on.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sykobee View Post
                    It would be interesting to see AMD Richland compared as well, to get a comparison against the integrated graphics of Intel's competitor.

                    Also, OpenCL.
                    +1 on comparison with Richland and/or other APUs.

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                    • #25
                      My test of HD6770 with disable_blend_func_extended=true force_glsl_extensions_warn=true R600_DEBUG=sb
                      http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...SO-HD6770REA17



                      __6770 ati|Phoronix ati| fglrx |
                      Nexuiz 90 | 88 | 91|
                      OA 0.8.8 110 | 100 | 118 |
                      R.QUAKE 153 | 75 | 361 |
                      SANCTUARY 46(1920) | __ | 88(1280) |
                      TROPICS 44(1920) | __ | 69(1280) |
                      Xonotic L 176 | 270 | 263 |
                      Xonotic H 132 | 147 | 153 |
                      Xonotic U 101 | 85 | 125 |
                      GLMARK2 1367 | 617 | __ |

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