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    Phoronix: Linux Gets IDed For Intel's "Harris Beach" Ultrabook

    Harris Beach is Intel's compelling Software Development Platform/Vehicle for Haswell in the form of an ultra-thin ultrabook...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM1MzA

  • #2
    Wishlist:

    1) 720p screen minimum
    2) Decent battery life (4hrs minimum)
    3) Good quality webcam
    4) Backlit keyboard
    5) non-sucking trackpad (read: decent palm rejection support on linux)
    6) metal unibody casing
    7) Reasonable price ( $1000 or so, plus or minus $100)
    8) yearly or bi-yearly (tick-tock) refreshes

    And I'll just start buying Intel made ultrabooks every 2 or 3 years.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ericg View Post
      Wishlist:

      1) 720p screen minimum
      2) Decent battery life (4hrs minimum)
      3) Good quality webcam
      4) Backlit keyboard
      5) non-sucking trackpad (read: decent palm rejection support on linux)
      6) metal unibody casing
      7) Reasonable price ( $1000 or so, plus or minus $100)
      8) yearly or bi-yearly (tick-tock) refreshes

      And I'll just start buying Intel made ultrabooks every 2 or 3 years.
      >> 1) 720p screen minimum
      Are you kidding? 720p = 1280×720. Basically every laptop has 1366x768 at 10" to 15.6" and is sold as HD. What you want is 1080p minimum.

      >> 2) Decent battery life (4hrs minimum)
      How about 6 hours min? 4 hours won't bring you through the day

      The other points are agreeable.
      Last edited by skriticos; 04-16-2013, 01:06 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ericg View Post
        4) Backlit keyboard
        Useless. And you don't even mention "good keyboard"?

        6) metal unibody casing
        God, please, no.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by skriticos View Post
          >> 1) 720p screen minimum
          Are you kidding? 720p = 1280×720. Basically every laptop has 1366x768 at 10" to 15.6" and is sold as HD. What you want is 1080p minimum.

          >> 2) Decent battery life (4hrs minimum)
          How about 6 hours min? 4 hours won't bring you through the day

          The other points are agreeable.
          I said 720p minimum (or whatever the equiv at 1366x768-- thats what my laptop is now) because bigger screen sizes drain the battery more and make the GPU work harder if you want "native resolution" images whether it be in videos or desktop compositing or games or whatever.

          4hrs I'd be happy with honestly.. my current laptop gets about 5 so I can work with 4

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pankkake View Post
            Useless. And you don't even mention "good keyboard"?


            God, please, no.
            I've yet to see a BAD keyboard that was backlit. I've seen plenty of bad keyboards that weren't backlit, I've seen good keyboards both lit and not lit, but Ive yet to find a BAD backlit keyboard. Typically if the company is gonna be conscious enough about the keyboard to make sure its backlit they are also conscious enough to make sure its a good keyboard too.

            You obviously dont travel with a laptop as much as me XD the metal unibody casing is necessary for the amount of hits and drops a laptop can suffer.

            Oh, another wishlist: gorilla glass on the screen. I accidentally slammed something against my laptop screen a few months back and the gorilla glass took it without a single complaint or ding

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ericg View Post
              I've yet to see a BAD keyboard that was backlit.
              Any Mac. Horrible experiences.

              You obviously dont travel with a laptop as much as me XD the metal unibody casing is necessary for the amount of hits and drops a laptop can suffer.
              First, "XD".
              Second, aluminum "unibody" crap is only for looks, not for durability.
              I have seen way too many dented, bent "unibody" macbooks.
              Third, "going to Starbucks" does not count as travelling.

              And now the "Gorilla" glass…

              You seem to want a Mac. Just buy a Mac, be the true hipster you want to be and stop wanting to ruin other people's good hardware.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                I said 720p minimum (or whatever the equiv at 1366x768
                Err, by definition that would be 768p.

                It's just vertical resolution, with p=progressive or i=interlaced.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pankkake View Post
                  Any Mac. Horrible experiences.


                  First, "XD".
                  Second, aluminum "unibody" crap is only for looks, not for durability.
                  I have seen way too many dented, bent "unibody" macbooks.
                  Third, "going to Starbucks" does not count as travelling.

                  And now the "Gorilla" glass…

                  You seem to want a Mac. Just buy a Mac, be the true hipster you want to be and stop wanting to ruin other people's good hardware.
                  Really, Pankkake? Calling me a hipster? Just...seriously just shutup, because you dont know SHIT about me.

                  Gorilla glass can take a hit, this laptop took a hit right to the screen that wouldve shattered my old one.

                  I travel across the country both by car and by plane, things get knocked around.

                  Aluminum unibody is not just about looks, it does have an impact on durability that plastic doesnt provide.

                  Apple macs good, reliable, durable HARDWARE. I hate OS X. If I ever bought a mac, the first thing I'd do is put Win7 or a Linux distro on it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                    Apple macs good, reliable, durable HARDWARE.
                    Not at all (I suppose you forgot "are"). They have the least reliable hardware out there because they compromise everything for looks.
                    Just face the reality, you want the good looks when you go to Starbucks. Your list screams "I want a Mac" but you obviously did not have any rational experience with those machines.

                    I hate OS X. If I ever bought a mac, the first thing I'd do is put Win7 or a Linux distro on it.
                    Irrelevant to the discussion, and I really don't care.
                    Last edited by pankkake; 04-16-2013, 04:08 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pankkake View Post
                      Not at all (I suppose you forgot "are"). They have the least reliable hardware out there because they compromise everything for looks.
                      Just face the reality, you want the good looks when you go to Starbucks. Your list screams "I want a Mac" but you obviously did not have any rational experience with those machines.


                      Irrelevant to the discussion, and I really don't care.
                      No I don't just "want good looks" It just so happens that there's two, maybe three, vendors currently who give me what I need in a laptop.

                      Dell with the XPS 13z -- more so the new model though than the old one which is what I have.
                      System76 with the Lemur (<--- the maybe. They dont fit exactly what i want)
                      Apple with the Macbook Air.

                      Now, what do I want? Good screen, good battery life, lightweight, non-plastic casing, backlit keyboard, not a brick, intel GPU is fine.

                      I got the XPS 13z because it gave me a reasonable screen, 5-6hrs of battery life, a backlit keyboard, a good casing with a gorilla glass protected screen, very lightweight (lighter than the macbook air actually), an intel CPU since AMD is going down the toilet as far as CPU's go, a relatively thin profile so its not an issue to put it in my backpack or suitcase with other things in there.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                        Err, by definition that would be 768p.

                        It's just vertical resolution, with p=progressive or i=interlaced.
                        There is no named resolution like that. There are 720p and 1080p resolutions, that are specified as broadcast standards.
                        1366 x 768 is only there because mutinying those results in an easy to handle pixel count for chip-sets.
                        We would even fare much better with 1280x720 displays.

                        http://hd1080i.blogspot.de/2006/12/1...-problems.html

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                        • #13
                          Zenbook

                          A nice extra you would want is a bright screen when out on a sunny day.

                          Check out the ASUS Zenbook.
                          The UX32A-DH51 is around 1000$

                          If you have some cash to burn
                          ASUS Zenbook UX51VZ-DH71

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by steverweber View Post
                            A nice extra you would want is a bright screen when out on a sunny day.

                            Check out the ASUS Zenbook.
                            The UX32A-DH51 is around 1000$

                            If you have some cash to burn
                            ASUS Zenbook UX51VZ-DH71
                            Thank you, finally, a non-dick comment. And yes, a bright screen is another big one that I forgot because i do love to write or do work out on the deck or on campus outside. . I will admit, the Dell XPS 13z fits most of my criteria, including a moderately bright screen. Its usable outside in direct sun but its still kind of a mirror lol.

                            I hope they do a Haswell refresh because a better screen than 1366x768 would be awesome. Otherwise I have very few complaints... the few that I do have are..

                            1) The BIOS doesnt support GPT disks for some reason... if you try to boot with GPT the Bios marks it as "no boot device found"
                            2) The AC jack is poorly designed..it basically MAKES the cord fray and stretch and slip out. (Seriously even a TINY bit of magnetism would be helpful)
                            3) The venting needs to be better done...if the laptop is on your lap, its basically a guarantee that your leg will cover the main vent for the one and only fan.
                            4) 4gigs of ram is a bit low since you cant upgrade it (soldered on) but the refresh from earlier this year kicked all the specs up. Ivy Bridge instead of Sandy Bridge, 1080p instead of 766p, 8gigs instead of 4, and a 256 SSD instead of 128

                            EDIT:

                            5) The touchpad-- a Cypress, is just NOW getting mainline linux support in 3.9 and theres basically no palm rejection so typing is a pain... Also Dell fscked up the screen connectors to the Sandy Bridge GPU because for some reason when you adjust the brightness it updates the registers for brightness, but resets others. So you have to set them in a very specific order OR, go back and Re-reset the ones the GPU just reset. Which is also finally getting fixed in 3.9, but considering this laptop came out during the...3.6? or so window, thats been a long time to wait to get the patches merged into mainline instead of just out-of-tree modules and patches.
                            Last edited by Ericg; 04-16-2013, 06:55 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ericg View Post
                              I said 720p minimum (or whatever the equiv at 1366x768-- thats what my laptop is now) because bigger screen sizes drain the battery more and make the GPU work harder if you want "native resolution" images whether it be in videos or desktop compositing or games or whatever.

                              4hrs I'd be happy with honestly.. my current laptop gets about 5 so I can work with 4
                              Screenwise, does more pixels actually require more power? I would think the power would be based more on the size in inches, as opposed to pixels. Me, I want 1440p+ screens either way.

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