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  • Intel Shafting Linux Users With Clover Trail: No Support

    Phoronix: Intel Shafting Linux Users With Clover Trail: No Support

    While Intel can be loved for consistently supporting their in-house products under Linux, and their Open-Source Technology Center (OTC) makes great strides at improving Linux from open-source contributions to the Mesa graphics stack to doing all sorts of kernel-level work along with major contributions to WebKit, Tizen, Wayland, and other key open-source components, they have a new blemish. It appears Intel won't be supporting their forthcoming Atom "Clover Trail" hardware under Linux...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE4NDY

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    I think this is the better decision than half-baked support. Why pretend when third party restrictions on the IP make it impossible to provide proper support and updates over the product life-cycle?

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    • #3
      The real solution is to use their massive R&D engine to develop a small and powerful GPU that eliminates the need for relying on PowerVR IP.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by WorBlux View Post
        I think this is the better decision than half-baked support. Why pretend when third party restrictions on the IP make it impossible to provide proper support and updates over the product life-cycle?
        I had the same line of thought. The second Michael said it used PowerVR my initial reaction "Well, no loss to us!" Very happy to see that Intel is now confident enough in their own GPU lineup to be using it (with Valley View) instead of licensing PowerVR

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        • #5
          Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
          The real solution is to use their massive R&D engine to develop a small and powerful GPU that eliminates the need for relying on PowerVR IP.
          You mean Ivy Bridge / Haswell? lol

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          • #6
            I wouldn't call it "shafting". I think it's just a different department / branch of Intel that likes to do things the ass-backwards way. So just avoid buying those products and those people in that PowerVR branch of Intel will get all laid off for not being as profitable. IMO, sounds more like the higher ups at Intel are just chasing after every potential revenue stream, which I really don't have a problem with as long as Intel does provide other solutions that make me happy.


            I'm still looking forward to buying Haswell for my next laptop.

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            • #7
              Another Microsoft Monopoly

              This time they've monopolized Intel's engineering time, preventing their competitors from even developing products in the first place.

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              • #8
                Every? HARDLY

                Originally posted by Sidicas View Post
                sounds more like the higher ups at Intel are just chasing after every potential revenue stream
                If they were looking at EVERY potential revenue stream then they would work with more than ONE vendor.

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                • #9
                  If it's using PowerVr it's useless anyway. The question is when will ValleyView arrive ? I've heard things like the end of 2013 which is quite late. I'm hoping it will arrive sooner than that, in the first half of 2013.

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                  • #10
                    To be honest I'm happy there will be no support for another PowerVR chip. If you are going to make support it should work well or otherwise just don't do it. A situation like the one with previous PowerVR chips was just a bad point in the intel history, even if it was not a real intel product there was the intel brand in the notebooks. I'm happy they will do serious support for the next generation, Valley View, and I strongly hope they will just do the same (and hopefully even better) support for the next chips from that one going on.

                    Keep up the good work free software work intel

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                    • #11
                      If someone knows exactly that using certain technology will result in sales reduction and negative karma, why the hell choose it then ?!

                      Is fired AMD marketing folk migrated to Intel ?!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                        If someone knows exactly that using certain technology will result in sales reduction and negative karma, why the hell choose it then ?!

                        Is fired AMD marketing folk migrated to Intel ?!
                        But it doesn't result in sales reductions, that's the whole point. It's just good enough for intel even w/o linux support. Most likely they figured it would cost them more to use something else adn add linux support then just forgetting about linux altogether. Ok, so maybe there are some lost sales, but no lost profit.

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                        • #13
                          If you're already a Linux user, and you buy a product with a PowerVR chip, then you didn't do any homework, and you probably deserve to run the vesa driver and/or tear your hair out trying to get the native resolution.

                          The only people I feel sorry for are those who don't currently use Linux, and try it after purchasing the product.

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                          • #14
                            that's not quite correct DanL

                            You see, lots of people have used Linux, and used it well on atom's n450 etc etc etc...

                            In fact, when you see "Intel processor with intel integrated graphics" on the store you take it that it's going to run well under linux unlike when you see "amd with radeon hf3rh93"


                            HEAR YE HEAR YE

                            Let the linux community all jump ship to C A15

                            A beast of a cpu and good integrated graphics.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                              If someone knows exactly that using certain technology will result in sales reduction and negative karma, why the hell choose it then ?!

                              Is fired AMD marketing folk migrated to Intel ?!
                              Because it's not obvious that it will result in sales reduction. The hardware is going to be sold with Windows 8, only. If you want to run Linux on it, then you're going to be counted as a Windows 8 user if you buy the hardware. It's simple, just don't buy the hardware. Then companies will just blame the lack of sales on how much Windows 8 sucks. That's life.

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