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  • #31
    I have a hard time caring about this. Atom is IMO the idiot child in the low power CPU market: ARM designs and AMD's C-series & E-series matter more.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by frantaylor View Post
      Intel is the ONLY company that makes decent gigabit ethernet chips

      ...

      .

      So true!

      But faint praise, that.

      Rather like saying that Microsoft makes a fine mouse!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hoohoo View Post
        But faint praise, that.

        Rather like saying that Microsoft makes a fine mouse!
        Also true. MS makes very good keyboards as well, typing on one

        They seem to be much better hw company than a sw company.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by frantaylor View Post
          Is this a legitimate business strategy or a flailing attempt by you to say something relevant?

          WHAT EXACTLY WOULD THE POINT BE in "making MS happy"???

          Intel knows FULL WELL that Windows is TOO BLOATED for effective performance on ARM. MS is STUCK with Intel whether they like it or not. Intel doesn't have to lift a finger to get LOTS of Microsoft business for YEARS AND YEARS.
          What I meant is MS is a monkey on Intel's back and Intel's just throwing a bone (Clover Trail) at MS just to keep that monkey at bay while it works on its OSS initiatives

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          • #35
            In my opinion the best mouse ever made was late-model Microsoft ball mouse. I could spin that thing to do a quick 180 turn and nail a pursuer with my rail gun in Quake II CTF. It was a beautiful move, just a snap of the wrist.

            Try that with a new fangled optical mouse - no way!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
              What I meant is MS is a monkey on Intel's back and Intel's just throwing a bone (Clover Trail) at MS just to keep that monkey at bay while it works on its OSS initiatives
              That explains why M$ is dipping it's toes in the ARM space?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by curaga View Post
                Also true. MS makes very good keyboards as well, typing on one

                They seem to be much better hw company than a sw company.
                I don't think their latest mice work well with linux (the touch based ones i mean). But yeah. never heard anyone complain about its older stuff.

                As for keyboards mechanicals all the way.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                  I don't think their latest mice work well with linux (the touch based ones i mean). But yeah. never heard anyone complain about its older stuff.

                  As for keyboards mechanicals all the way.
                  The 'arc mouse'? Bought one, it's a terrible mouse. It lives at the bottom of my computer junk box now. Probably Logitech Anywhere MX my fave currently. Nice size, good weight with those two AA batteries it uses.
                  Last edited by hoohoo; 09-14-2012, 01:23 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by hoohoo View Post
                    The 'arc mouse'? Bought one, it's a terrible mouse. It lives at the bottom of my computer junk box now. Probably Logitech Anywhere MX my fave currently. Nice size, good weight with those two AA batteries it uses.
                    No i meant older ones with mechanical interfaces.

                    In general there seems to be a lack of quality peripherals (mice in particular). Its logitech, MS and then an enormous amount of products that are either of pure quality or ruined by gamer aesthetics. Or both.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by 89c51 View Post
                      No i meant older ones with mechanical interfaces.

                      In general there seems to be a lack of quality peripherals (mice in particular). Its logitech, MS and then an enormous amount of products that are either of pure quality or ruined by gamer aesthetics. Or both.
                      Arc mouse is one of new touch mouse models. We're on the same page...



                      Gamer mice, esp Razer, designers must all be about 16 years old LOL.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                        that's not quite correct DanL
                        It's spot on. You just can't deal with reality.

                        when you see "Intel processor with intel integrated graphics" on the store you take it that it's going to run well under linux unlike when you see "amd with radeon hf3rh93"
                        No, you don't do that, especially when recent history has proven otherwise (Poulsbo). If you do that, then you're lazy and/or ignorant. Just because you want hardware decisions to be so simple that you can go to a store (where Linux is probably a foreign concept to employees) and buy something based on a shiny sticker and a vague "brand name" concept, doesn't mean that's how it is. IIRC, you made the same argument back in a Poulsbo/Cedarview discussion, and I can kind of see how a non-techie could get swindled. However, there's no excuse this time. If Intel fooled folks once, shame on Intel. If the folks get fooled again...

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                        • #42
                          Did I buy one of these new atoms? no. So how did I get fooled?

                          What I'm saying is that oh let me see, I had an atom n455 and it had good support under linux, I'm sure all the other atom's had, am I wrong? I remember seeing netbooks with atoms on stores here selling with ubuntu pre installed.

                          SO, it's easy to SEE how so many people simply purchased this new atom without thinking twice about it's linux support

                          and they got trolled by intel

                          http://communities.intel.com/thread/29157


                          and people shouldn't really defend intel on this one because intel took a dump all over you people.


                          This new atom cedar view is the follow up to 2010's pine view...


                          That means you can only run linux well with 2010 tech, cedar view will be the de facto architecture for netbooks/nettops/ipcs etc for 2012/2013

                          This means you will not be running linux in an intel netbook this 2 years


                          SHAME ON INTEL SHAME SHAME

                          SHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMM MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

                          how are the mali gfx not open source? don't they have their drivers on android and ain't android open source?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pallidus View Post
                            how are the mali gfx not open source? don't they have their drivers on android and ain't android open source?
                            how are the Geforce gfx not open source? don't they have their drivers on linux/X and ain't linux/X open source?

                            Last edited by Gusar; 09-16-2012, 06:59 AM.

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                            • #44
                              dearest troll when I install a linux distro it comes with nouveau drivers and then I have the choice to install proprietary drivers, which I have to download from their site etc etc


                              when you install android 4 or whatevers I NEVER once saw people having to install proprietary drivers

                              so if android is open source and the drivers are already in there, how are the drivers not open source???

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                              • #45
                                I dare you to install a vanilla Android build on your Mali-using phone, and then say it includes open drivers for it.

                                All the images are customized by the vendors to include the drivers, just like the OEM Windows disks.

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