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  • #16
    Originally posted by chithanh View Post
    Because one can make two articles that way.
    It makes me agree to read such stuff all the time here in this forum. We live all (or most of the readers here) in a capitalistic world, as long as this is true, most of us, live under direct fear of homelessness.

    Yes some of us feal maybe save from this, but thats an illusion. At least here in Germany you get your money from the social system by good will from the public officials. They make often mistakes and maybe force you into work that you are not willing to do.

    So when you want something today, there are a few ways today. 1. you pay directly for it 2. you make it by yourself 3. someone makes money with advertisement or something like that.

    So even if the phoronix authors (or is it only one guy?) are not perfekt they invest much time for stuff most of us are interessted. I dont know other sites that invest so much time to get X and Kernel tests and news out. If you know sites that do this job better give me a hint about it.

    But blaming somebody for making somehow money in a very customerfriendly way pisses me off.

    I am for basic income grant, so that we stop with poorness in the western world at least, and also on the other countrys. But as long this is not there it is not fair to critisise someone to make money by helping people with free information.


    To the intel driver, is there hope that over gallium the intel hardware especialy the tested samsung nc10 could maybe play 720p vides without problems? The old mesa plays only dia show at that resulition.
    Last edited by blackiwid; 07-07-2011, 07:09 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
      It makes me agree to read such stuff all the time here in this forum. We live all (or most of the readers here) in a capitalistic world, as long as this is true, most of us, live under direct fear of homelessness.

      Yes some of us feal maybe save from this, but thats an illusion. At least here in Germany you get your money from the social system by good will from the public officials. They make often mistakes and maybe force you into work that you are not willing to do.

      So when you want something today, there are a few ways today. 1. you pay directly for it 2. you make it by yourself 3. someone makes money with advertisement or something like that.

      So even if the phoronix authors (or is it only one guy?) are not perfekt they invest much time for stuff most of us are interessted. I dont know other sites that invest so much time to get X and Kernel tests and news out. If you know sites that do this job better give me a hint about it.

      But blaming somebody for making somehow money in a very customerfriendly way pisses me off.

      I am for basic income grant, so that we stop with poorness in the western world at least, and also on the other countrys. But as long this is not there it is not fair to critisise someone to make money by helping people with free information.


      To the intel driver, is there hope that over gallium the intel hardware especialy the tested samsung nc10 could maybe play 720p vides without problems? The old mesa plays only dia show at that resulition.
      What player and options are you using? I could try with i915g and fix it if it's slow.

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      • #18
        For those wondering about five-day-old-benchmarks... it's because I had to get them done in advance and build up a publishing queue in advance as I was away for 3~4 days due to needing to meet with some of Valve contacts in Washington, as mentioned on my Twitter feed.
        Michael Larabel
        http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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        • #19
          I'm primarily interested in seeing Intel chips move to Gallium due to the abundance of useful state trackers that are in development. Once Clover, OpenVG and the GL3 state tracker start to mature, being able to run them on my 965GM (with features not supported by the hardware running through optimized LLVM bytecode) would be very nice. No Can Do with i965c though, and i965g isn't really being worked on. i915 users should consider themselves lucky to get this nice boost despite the hardware being really, really ancient (even my 965GM is old, and it isn't getting that degree of work).

          Now, if only Google would find a reason to productize a system using a Radeon R600 - R800 class GPU, and find occasion to either pour money into AMD's open source crew, or hire developers of their own to work on r600g...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by marcheu View Post
            What player and options are you using? I could try with i915g and fix it if it's slow.
            I use the latest ubuntu with the default movie player (totem), I also tried VLC no better result.

            I try to play 720p movies with x264 codec.

            I would be very happy if there is a way to play this on the nc10.

            thanx for trying to get that working

            I did not change any settings btw.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
              I'm primarily interested in seeing Intel chips move to Gallium due to the abundance of useful state trackers that are in development. Once Clover, OpenVG and the GL3 state tracker start to mature, being able to run them on my 965GM (with features not supported by the hardware running through optimized LLVM bytecode) would be very nice. No Can Do with i965c though, and i965g isn't really being worked on. i915 users should consider themselves lucky to get this nice boost despite the hardware being really, really ancient (even my 965GM is old, and it isn't getting that degree of work).
              in order to use the state trackers the underlying hardware must support the function right???? ie if i915 hw doesn't support opengl 5 or OpenCL 3 the state tracker supporting those won't be able to do much right??


              ps
              versions numbers are fictional & used for illustration purposes in order not to create confusion with the current hw capabilities

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              • #22
                Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
                I use the latest ubuntu with the default movie player (totem), I also tried VLC no better result.

                I try to play 720p movies with x264 codec.
                I'm using Ubuntu on my Eee PC 1000H and I'm in the same situation. Even low bitrate 720p movies are practically unplayable, however on Arch they used to play almost perfectly (maybe 1-2 dropped frames every 10 seconds or so) and I have no idea why. The kernel I used back then was the same version of the most recent Ubuntu. Also tried VP8 encoded file and it's the same situation.

                In regards to marcheu's work it's amazing to see this kind of performance on something that hasn't been touched for years until recently! Nice work and, not that it matters, but you have my vote on the performance optimizations business I just want to be able to play Neverwinter Nights on this piece of crap 945gm.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Michael View Post
                  For those wondering about five-day-old-benchmarks... it's because I had to get them done in advance and build up a publishing queue in advance as I was away for 3~4 days due to needing to meet with some of Valve contacts in Washington, as mentioned on my Twitter feed.
                  That's cool and it was still the right decision to publish this article. But better journalism is to explicitly mention what has changed in the i915g driver between the time the benchmarks were done and the article was published, e.g. the 500 lines of changes that marcheu mentioned. Even better if you make an estimate about which of your benchmarks are affected by the changes to what extent.

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                  • #24
                    It sounds as if the article was written right after running the benchmarks, before the subsequent changes happened.

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