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  • Intel Graphics Get A Boost With Linux 2.6.38, Mesa 7.11

    Phoronix: Intel Graphics Get A Boost With Linux 2.6.38, Mesa 7.11

    Earlier this week I talked about the direction of ATI Radeon graphics in Ubuntu 11.04, which is quite positive with there being measurable 3D performance improvements in the latest open-source driver code, after a week prior talking about a massive Intel Sandy Bridge performance fix that is able to now put the open-source Linux performance closer to being on-par with Intel's Windows OpenGL driver. How though is the performance of Intel's previous-generator Clarkdale/Arrandale graphics looking? Quite good too. Here are some quick benchmarks.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=15787

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    Nice boost, i would like if there would be a xorg backports repo for Debian 6.0 / squeeze too. Maybe launchpad should add Debian support.

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    • #3
      While it is a nice boost it looks like I still wouldn't classify barely over 30 fps as "playable". Maybe at lower resolutions it maybe playable.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kano View Post
        Nice boost, i would like if there would be a xorg backports repo for Debian 6.0 / squeeze too. Maybe launchpad should add Debian support.
        I was about to ask about Ubuntu 11.04. Is there a launchpad repo for Mesa 7.11? (other than xorg edgers, which would pull lots of other bits). Thanks for any pointer!

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        • #5
          A lot of good news today! i'm really happy!

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          • #6
            It's a shame I can't use the newer drivers due to a bug that's been there since driver version 2.12 (found in Ubuntu 10.10). I need MS Office to work under Wine, since LibreOffice still can't do some thins I need (like full compatibility with Office 2007 documents), and any driver newer than 2.11 causes major rendering errors (black areas and borders).

            It also affects other programs, as we can see by the bugzilla entry at freedesktop.org: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30157

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            • #7
              It's sad I can't use the newer drivers due to a bug that's been there since driver version 2.12 (found in Ubuntu 10.10). I need MS Office to work under Wine, since LibreOffice still can't do some thins I need (like full compatibility with Office 2007 documents), and any driver newer than 2.11 causes major rendering errors (black areas and borders).

              It also affects other programs, as we can see by the bugzilla entry at freedesktop.org: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30157

              I even downgraded the entire Ubuntu to 10.04 because of another problem with my trackpad too (it takes 3 to 4 taps, sometimes, for it to register the click).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by andrebrait View Post
                I need MS Office to work under Wine, since LibreOffice still can't do some thins I need (like full compatibility with Office 2007 documents)
                Andre, according to ISO/IEC 26300 ODF is official document interchange format. Not Docx. This is why MS Office should open Libre/Open Office documents, not vice versa. Docx in MSO 2007 is MS-only local proprietary format.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                  Andre, according to ISO/IEC 26300 ODF is official document interchange format. Not Docx. This is why MS Office should open Libre/Open Office documents, not vice versa. Docx in MSO 2007 is MS-only local proprietary format.
                  Ya but this isn't how it works out in reality.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                    Ya but this isn't how it works out in reality.
                    In reality you install LibreOffice and point anybody questioning at ISO/IEEE.

                    You, of course, can and should use anything you prefer or want. But when it comes to document exchange, standards must be followed. It isn't LibreOffice problem, its Microsoft problem.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
                      In reality you install LibreOffice and point anybody questioning at ISO/IEEE.

                      You, of course, can and should use anything you prefer or want. But when it comes to document exchange, standards must be followed. It isn't LibreOffice problem, its Microsoft problem.
                      Actually like it or not it is a LibreOffice problem. Despite what any ISO/IEEE standard says MS Office doc formats are the real standard set by user adoption much like MS Windows is the defacto standard for operating systems.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                        Actually like it or not it is a LibreOffice problem. Despite what any ISO/IEEE standard says MS Office doc formats are the real standard set by user adoption much like MS Windows is the defacto standard for operating systems.
                        That's what I was going to say...

                        No matter what ISO/IEEE says...

                        The International System of Units establishes metres as standart unit for lenght. Go and tell people who use the imperial system do use metres I think it's simpler than telling people who use MS Office to save their files in ODF format (most people doesn't even KNOW what's DOC, they just see the MS Word icon in the file and click it), but will serve as an example.

                        crazycheese, what you said would be ideal, but our world is real, and it's filled with users (mostly dumb users), and I, as much as any other computer technician, office worker, etc, have to deal with these users, not with experts. I just like Linux, use it as my main OS at home, but I still need MS Office (it's the only MS program I still need today), and so such rendering errors under wine are unacceptable for me.

                        It's been confirmed to be a bug in x.org's intel driver, any version past 2.11. I was just saying it's sad to see such performance increase from using Mesa 7.11 and Intel's latest driver, with the latest Linux kernel, since I can't enjoy these improvements because any driver past 2.11 will cause rendering errors in Office 2007 under Wine.

                        Thanks, anyway, for even reading my post, and sorry, admins, for the unintended double-posting.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by deanjo View Post
                          Actually like it or not it is a LibreOffice problem. Despite what any ISO/IEEE standard says MS Office doc formats are the real standard set by user adoption much like MS Windows is the defacto standard for operating systems.
                          Well then you should use the de facto operating system, problem solved!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by andrebrait View Post
                            The International System of Units establishes metres as standart unit for lenght. Go and tell people who use the imperial system do use metres
                            Wait, someone is still using the imperial system in 2011? How does it feel being left in the dark ages when the rest of the world has moved on?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
                              Wait, someone is still using the imperial system in 2011? How does it feel being left in the dark ages when the rest of the world has moved on?
                              QFT, I live in the U.S. and it makes me angry every time it is used, jut die already.

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