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    Phoronix: The Loser In Our Windows vs. Linux Tests: Intel Graphics

    We are still working on the first part of our Windows 7 vs. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS benchmarks that are set to be published early next week, but so far there is one easy conclusion to draw from the completed tests: Intel's Linux graphics driver is still no match to the Intel Windows driver...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODIwMQ

  • #2
    I guess we now know how much Intel really cares about Linux.

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    • #3
      and i wonder how much amd still cares about their r500 series. Lucid Lynx will give the answer.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by waucka View Post
        I guess we now know how much Intel really cares about Linux.
        Quite a lot? We are a minority compared to the Windows side, you can't expect performance parity, at least not this soon.

        Remember that a lot of time and effort have gone into bringing the entire graphics stack up to date, performance tweaking, especially for games, haven't been a priority.

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        • #5
          Anyway, nice to finally see some comparison benchmarks for Intel, thank you Michael!

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          • #6
            no, lucid will not, 10.10 will.
            Gallium 3D driver is getting to a usable state and dynamic powermanagement will hopefully work

            greetings

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            • #7
              what is really gonna be interesting is comparison of PROPRIETARY Nvidia and ATI performance difference on different platforms.
              There is no value in comparing performance of Nouveau with Nvidia's driver.
              We all know the results.

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              • #8
                Totally agree with n0nsense. If the intention of the article is to compare the OSs then the drivers should be the same when possible.

                If you wanto to compare bundled drivers performance, go ahead with intel gpu, but please make clear what you are doing.

                IMHO Phoronix is an important source of information about *nix systems and showing some misleading results can make the "image" of linux even poorer among some people who hasn't adopted it yet. And as such, I really believe that such comparison *must* not be affected by an obvious (video driver) flaw like this.

                If Windoze had free/open drivers, then I think it would be fair. I suggest using AMD board with Catalyst or Nvidia's card and driver on both systems.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Caveira View Post
                  Totally agree with n0nsense. If the intention of the article is to compare the OSs then the drivers should be the same when possible.
                  Right, that's what I am doing. Using the proprietary NVIDIA/ATI drivers on both platforms using the equivalent releases. With Intel though, the open-source Linux driver is the only option.
                  Michael Larabel
                  http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by n0nsense View Post
                    what is really gonna be interesting is comparison of PROPRIETARY Nvidia and ATI performance difference on different platforms.
                    First of all: I want to know how much the intel drivers suck, so yes, this is interesting.

                    And I tested ATI Catalyst OpenGL performance on Arch Linux, Ubuntu and Windows Vista with this Unigine Heaven Benchmark and they are about the same.

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                    • #11
                      Hi Michael, now I understand. Thank you for your great work!

                      @ChemicalBrother: I never said it wans't interesting, but alone these results could distort the objectives... Your observations on catalyst are great too.

                      Cheers!!

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                      • #12
                        on my intel x4500MHD for the last half year or so, my linux drivers outperform my windows drivers noticeably, plus my video playback isn't smooth on windows, I get tearing and stuttering. Maybe Clarkdale is different.

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                        • #13
                          Basically it is a bit unfair when you say that Intel is the loser. I certainly know from my own benchmarks that the Win driver is much better optimizied than the Linux driver. But compared to nvidia binary or fglrx it is very unlikely that those drivers share much code - most likely none. So i hope you compare Win against other OSS driver too when you test with other gfx cards.

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                          • #14
                            I don't play much 3D games on laptops, so the intel X4500MHD has already been performing well enough at present for me, except the "long lived" slight flickering issue in 2.6.33 drm module.

                            However, my interest part here is when will Intel really try to move to the gallium3d architecture. I don't expect an aggressive moving as they did when adopting KMS and UXA, but I do look forward to seeing a uniformed linux graphics stack in the near future.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dstaubsauger View Post
                              and i wonder how much amd still cares about their r500 series. Lucid Lynx will give the answer.
                              Would be rather ironic if in future people would end up making a backport for r500 from Linux drivers to Windows because the old Catalyst wouldn't run on new Windows versions anymore. :P

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