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  • #16
    Originally posted by miles View Post
    Replace "Ubuntu alpha releases" by "Intel IGP" in his post and you got your answer
    I'd *love* to, but we decided to go with a good matte monitor instead of a video card. Finding a good-quality laptop with a good monitor, video card, size and a reasonable price is an exercise in frustration. I just hope the 4500 lives up to the hype (that is, it offers usable 2d and video with Compiz).

    @lucky_: Many thanks, I am relieved it works with 8.10 out of the box! Performance is likely to go up as drivers mature, as was the case with the X3100 between Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10.

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    • #17
      The X4500 works fine in Ubuntu/Kubuntu, but dear lord, please improve the performance. It chugs on Tremulous with Linux drivers, and it's completely fine in Windows.

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      • #18
        Apparently it doesn't even have OpenGL 2.0 so some games older than the card aren't playable on it.

        Sad. Where are the open-source coders?

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        • #19
          Like others said, you have too many variables. It's not just the X-related stuff that changed between 8.10 and the development snapshot - you've got experimental packages top-to-bottom.

          I'm sure some people are sick of hearing me say this by now, but how about that OpenSUSE Build Service? You can pick and choose additional repositories that will let you run experimental packages, and you can easily narrow the scope so that it will only affect certain parts.

          For openSUSE 11.0, they've got the "X11:Xorg" repository. For 11.1, they've got "X11rivers:Video". Both of them are available for "one-click install", meaning it'll set up Zypper to look to and, optionally, permanently subscribe to the needed repositories and take care of the dependencies.

          That way, you could run stock openSUSE 11.1, and then openSUSE 11.1 stock-with-newer-X-stack.

          Oh, by the way, that X11rivers:Video repository I mentioned? Already has an openchrome-drm package. Throwing that out there to show that, yes, they do stay on top of things.

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          • #20
            Launchpad Bug #306014

            I'd love to see the difference, when DRI is enabled on Jaunty. Because of bug #603014 DRI isn't enabled as default.

            On my two laptops this makes a huge difference (at least on KDE 4 compositing and glxgears), even if I've got the feeling that there's still a (smaller) blocker somewhere.

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            • #21
              I have done some personal side-by-side benchmarking because the software I develop depends heavily on the driver/gpu performance.
              2.4 was very good, 2.5 already regressed quite a bit and 2.6 performs horrible.

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              • #22
                I actually encounter a big bug with the intel stack on ubuntu 8.10, because I never had to use any opengl app before.
                Apart from compiz which runs fine, every ouput I get from an opengl app is garbeled I wanted to update to intel 2.4.3, I downloaded the tar, ./configure, make sudo make install, but the log shows that 2.4.1 is still in use.

                Any idea ?

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                • #23
                  Could someone tell me how to benchmark Tremulous? I ask because I've tried it in a similar laptop to the one used for the article and what I see is 90fps in Ubuntu 7.10 and 75-80fps in Ubuntu 8.10, so I assume I'm doing something wrong.

                  I have no idea how to play this game, so I just installed it from the repository, opened it, clicked play. It told me no servers were found and asked me to create one. I click create server, accept all defaults and start playing. I join a team and select a place and simply start moving around until I get killed. All this time I see the FPS mentioned above. Am I missing something?

                  The laptop is a Santa Rosa based HP, 15.4" display (1280x800), Core 2 Duo T7100, Intel GMA X3100, 1.5GB RAM, 120GB HDD.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Luis View Post
                    Could someone tell me how to benchmark Tremulous? I ask because I've tried it in a similar laptop to the one used for the article and what I see is 90fps in Ubuntu 7.10 and 75-80fps in Ubuntu 8.10, so I assume I'm doing something wrong.

                    I have no idea how to play this game, so I just installed it from the repository, opened it, clicked play. It told me no servers were found and asked me to create one. I click create server, accept all defaults and start playing. I join a team and select a place and simply start moving around until I get killed. All this time I see the FPS mentioned above. Am I missing something?

                    The laptop is a Santa Rosa based HP, 15.4" display (1280x800), Core 2 Duo T7100, Intel GMA X3100, 1.5GB RAM, 120GB HDD.
                    You download http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/

                    and run:

                    phoronix-test-suite benchmark tremulous

                    Easy as that
                    Michael Larabel
                    http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Michael View Post
                      You download http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/

                      and run:

                      phoronix-test-suite benchmark tremulous

                      Easy as that
                      Yes, that was easy, thanks!

                      Tested in Ubuntu 7.10 and got 42fps. I expect it to drop a bit in 8.10, maybe down to 35fps, but that's still quite better than the 22.6fps you're getting in similar hardware. Will test.

                      Results here.

                      UPDATE: Tested with Ubuntu 8.10 and got 24.56fps. Huge regression. I'll try to test with XAA to see if it's just a EXA issue or if there's something more. Results here.

                      UPDATE2: No improvement with XAA on Ubuntu 8.10. Got a lower 22.5fps.
                      Last edited by Luis; 12-27-2008, 09:23 AM.

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                      • #26
                        I just tested my X4500 in 8.10 and got 13.26 fps, which is quite a bit worse than yours, and with better hardware! I should also mention that the fps were all over the place, ranging from over 70 to below 5, and on the whole would have been very unplayable. PTS Global results here

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by chaos386 View Post
                          I just tested my X4500 in 8.10 and got 13.26 fps, which is quite a bit worse than yours, and with better hardware! I should also mention that the fps were all over the place, ranging from over 70 to below 5, and on the whole would have been very unplayable. PTS Global results here
                          Yes, your hardware should be up to twice as fast for this benchmark, plus you're testing at a lower resolution (1024x768 vs. 1280x800), so it's sad to see such a miserable performance. If I got 42fps with Ubuntu 7.10 (the game seemed very playable at that framerate), your target with that hardware/resolution should be no less than 90fps once all the issues have been solved. But unfortunately that won't happen before the October 2009 releases (if nothing goes wrong). Oh well...

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                          • #28
                            Ever decreasing performance

                            As you can check here:

                            https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/252094


                            Performance of Intel Graphics had been decreasing long before Intrepid ibex, since the 2007 series.

                            Jaunty's performance is just a new step in the wrong direction.

                            My experience is that the best choice for Linux graphics drivers are ALWAYS "the EVIL" Nvidia cards.

                            I really would have like to know about this before getting my asus eee 901.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by chaos386 View Post
                              I just tested my X4500 in 8.10 and got 13.26 fps, which is quite a bit worse than yours, and with better hardware! I should also mention that the fps were all over the place, ranging from over 70 to below 5, and on the whole would have been very unplayable. PTS Global results here
                              Tested Fedora 10 this morning, which was a little better at 18 fps.

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                              • #30
                                Now I benchmarked on Fedora 10 too and there I got 48fps in Tremulous, so the regression in Ubuntu 8.10 seems to be Ubuntu specific and not an upstream one.

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