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  • Problem with Catalyst v8.6 and 8.7

    Hello guys,

    I seem to get quite an interesting problem if I'm using the latest (8.7) and previous catalyst (8.6) driver for Linux.

    The problem gone if I revert back to version 8.5

    The problem I get is that I'm completely unable to run any gl-application.
    • If I run glxgears and fgl_glxgears I'm just presented with the window but nothing moving inside it.
    • glxinfo and fglxinfo just hangs and doesn't print out anything

    Only thing is that my CPU is topped up on one core.

    My dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't say anything more than usual.

    I'm running standard Ubuntu 8.04.1 (x86_64)

    Is there anyone that have the same issue and any solution to this problem?

    Is there anyone that have some hints on how I could get some more info out of my system to help diagnose the issue?

    Poke me if you need any more details

    -
    Harre

  • #2
    Originally posted by harre View Post
    Hello guys,

    I seem to get quite an interesting problem if I'm using the latest (8.7) and previous catalyst (8.6) driver for Linux.

    The problem gone if I revert back to version 8.5

    The problem I get is that I'm completely unable to run any gl-application.
    • If I run glxgears and fgl_glxgears I'm just presented with the window but nothing moving inside it.
    • glxinfo and fglxinfo just hangs and doesn't print out anything

    Only thing is that my CPU is topped up on one core.

    My dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't say anything more than usual.

    I'm running standard Ubuntu 8.04.1 (x86_64)

    Is there anyone that have the same issue and any solution to this problem?

    Is there anyone that have some hints on how I could get some more info out of my system to help diagnose the issue?

    Poke me if you need any more details

    -
    Harre
    I have the same problem, I have reverted to 8.5. About the drivers I would'nt bother updating them any more as with each release they have more bugs and are also slower with each release.

    I started off with 17000-1800 glxgears its now down to 14000-15000
    so I would wait for people here to mess around with the drivers and report back.

    I find it confusing that the people who designed these chips don't know how to make them work, may be they should borrow some off intel's or nvidias staff.

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    • #3
      Honestly we are not optimizing for glxgears. A lot of optimization work involves making important things go fast at the expense of unimportant things. If you are seeing performance slowdowns on reasonably modern apps (eg native games) please let us know.

      If you are not seeing anything drawn to the screen let's try to figure out what is happening on your system. We do quite a bit of 3d testing on each release before shipping so this is probably something related to a difference between your system and our test systems.

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      • #4
        You test something with 3d? Well of course no game using wine it seems...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bridgman View Post
          If you are not seeing anything drawn to the screen let's try to figure out what is happening on your system. We do quite a bit of 3d testing on each release before shipping so this is probably something related to a difference between your system and our test systems.
          Aye, that's the issue I have, noting is rendered in my window.

          Got any tips or pointers where to start looking for differences?

          Forgot to mention what graphics card I have.
          I have a Radeon HD 2900xt (r600)

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          • #6
            People don't choose an amd graphics card to become a part of the ATI test program. Some people just expect it to work, the fact is 6 months after release my hd3870 still does not work properly and by the looks of it no one elses does.

            Fact driver has more bugs than ever·

            fact drivers are getting slower, they are slower in nexiuz as well

            Fact most people play games with cedega or wine.

            Fact your drivers now don't work with wine or cedega.

            who cares about fps if wines not working.

            You blaim peoples system configuration here, but 8.7 says it supports hardy heron. I know people have tried a clean install with your drivers and they still dont work, most people are still using 8.5!

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            • #7
              no stability

              Also, since the Catalyst release my system (mobility x1400) slows to a halt after 6 hours of usage. Restarting the X server at that point results in a hard lock. Why doesn't ATI address stability in their driver releases?

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              • #8
                That's simple to explain. They only work between lunch and tea time then they go home and play with nvidia cards.

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                • #9
                  Also, since the Catalyst release my system (mobility x1400) slows to a halt after 6 hours of usage. Restarting the X server at that point results in a hard lock. Why doesn't ATI address stability in their driver releases?
                  I've got the same problem with a Radeon X1550 (RV505).

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                  • #10
                    well...

                    Originally posted by mancunian View Post
                    I've got the same problem with a Radeon X1550 (RV505).
                    I guess its somewhat comforting to know that I am not the only one, nor is the x1400 the only card that has this issue.

                    This was never an issue when I ran XGL on top with previous pre-catalyst drivers.

                    This seems like a pretty big bug if it stretches across ATI product lines. Has ATI ever responded by saying that they are aware of this issue? Looking in the release notes for the latest driver shows no indication of this being a "known issue".

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                    • #11
                      Is there a Bugzilla ticket open for this ?

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                      • #12
                        Well, the drivers work fine on my cards. My HD3850's performance on things like Nexuiz is about 95% that of the Windows driver, which is pretty darn good if you ask me. Performance on my laptop's 200M shows about the same delta. Stability is not much of a problem either; only thing that has caused a few crashes/freezes on my main system are Flash and Compiz. In fact, the only real headaches with the driver was when I messed around with different xservers while testing the open source driver on my latop. My systems are nothing special either; Ubuntu/Kubuntu Hardy with the distribution kernel.
                        I will, however, give you a point on Wine. Something went bad after the 8.5 release. Wine is totally unusable now with the latest driver.

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                        • #13
                          Trying to help

                          Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                          Is there a Bugzilla ticket open for this ?
                          I did a search in bugzilla and it came up with nothing. I then decided to submit the bug. Here is the link:

                          http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mega_mike View Post
                            I did a search in bugzilla and it came up with nothing. I then decided to submit the bug. Here is the link:

                            http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
                            Did you try taking some (if not all) of the experimental parameters off of your xorg.conf? Also, some of the stuff there you should not have to specify, like the DRI and Composite stuff, not if you're using the recent drivers. Additionally, check your physical system RAM usage; I have noticed with the recent drivers that sometimes some 3D apps. will not terminate properly, therefore "hoging" RAM and leading to performance loss over time.
                            Last edited by Melcar; 07-25-2008, 02:00 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mega_mike View Post
                              I did a search in bugzilla and it came up with nothing. I then decided to submit the bug. Here is the link:

                              http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222
                              Thanks !!! (needed three exclamation marks to meet the 10 character minimum )

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