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  • #46
    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    Did you try to run a game like Trackmanion Nations Forever?
    Nope. I run Blizzard games. Diablo 2, WoW, Starcraft.

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    • #47
      TM triggers it directly using wine 1.1.1.

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      • #48
        It's pretty much unusable. I can't even launch any game (even older 2D titles) without the whole screen being riddled with stretched out black boxes. Even if I try to use Wine in a Window it corrupts my whole desktop (after which I have to restart my session).
        Hard to say if it's all fglrx's fault, because there was a time (Wine 0.9.x + fglrx 8.1) when everything worked (well, almost everything).
        Last edited by Melcar; 07-22-2008, 01:01 PM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Melcar View Post
          It's pretty much unusable. I can't even launch any game (even older 2D titles) without the whole screen being riddled with stretched out black boxes. Even if I try to use Wine in a Window it corrupts my whole desktop (after which I have to restart my session).
          Hard to say if it's all fglrx's fault, because there was a time (Wine 0.9.x + fglrx 8.1) when everything worked (well, almost everything).
          Sorry, I was talking about the
          "libGL error: drmMap of framebuffer failed (Cannot allocate memory)
          libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering"
          issue.
          Your problem is discussed in http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10940. (even though it's about cedega, it shoud be the same problem).

          So, to clarify:
          I'm talking about Wine bug http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335, which causes nearly every 3D app to fall back to software rendering and thus to run extremely slow.
          The bug IS related to fglrx/Catalyst, as it is pointed out in the comments in the bug report, so AMD will need to fix this.

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          • #50
            Hey all,

            cjr2k3: This bug does not apply to your card, it's of an older series that is much better supported through both the ATI driver and WINE.

            This bug is about the 3xxx series (I have a 3650) and possibly higher GPU's from ATI.


            I have not attempted to run WINE yet on the latest drivers, not since 8.5 due to the fact that I recently replaced my 3650 for an 8800GTS. However, I still have the card lying around and would be tempted to try it tonight.


            BTW, WINE runs great on the 8800GTS, as it does on all my other NVidia cards.

            What's troubling to me is the latest turn of events with NVidia.
            A) Reports show that their mobile GPU's are failing at an "abnormal" rate.
            B) Their stock is dropping, especially now that ATI has a competitive card at a much more affordable price.
            C) Roumour has it that EVGA and XFX are going to jump ship on NVidia, most likely in favor of Intel. This will put serious hurt on Nvidia.

            I'm at a loss of what to do at this point. Yes, I can game in Linux and Windows, but I honestly don't like the power consumption and heat output of this GPU I'm currently using.

            Dan

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            • #51
              No the bug is for RV410 (X700 SE) too.

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              • #52
                Can't wait for it to be fixed so I can play my Source games in Steam...

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                • #53
                  Can't you use 8-5?

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                  • #54
                    http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335
                    I finally got it fixed on my computer by calling "ulimit -s unlimited" before running any wine application. Seems like either Wine or fglrx get a problem with the stack and thus report missing memory.
                    However, I'm fine with this bug as long as there's such a workaround, even though the graphics corruption thing still showstops windowed games...
                    Last edited by NeoBrain; 07-23-2008, 01:44 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Tryed other games (Civ4 Frets on Fire via Wine) and got something strange.

                      Civ 4 worked as supposed with 8.6 and 8.7, Frets on Fire got slower on 8.7. I Decided to try if the same happens to Linux version, and what I got is strange:

                      with 8.5: Runs Perfect
                      8.6: Doesn't run at all (pygame error)
                      8.7: Run, but slower than 8.5. In some cases it's unplayable.

                      Although with Wine and other games I don't see any difference with any of the driver version post 8.3.

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                      • #56
                        I reinstaled my SO from Scratch and everything else (Ubuntu 8.04 x86_64 + fglrx 8.7) and my first thing was to install WoW and try how it would work from an almost "tweakless" (wine reg tweak was done) install.

                        Results... Last WoW patch really messed up with OpenGL. From wine appdb everyone is complaining from a blank screen! Pixel Shaders must be turn off if someone in Linux want to play. Besides that game run normaly.

                        Didn't try some graphic intense situations to check how 8.7 is working from a "clean" point of view.

                        Any one have any lights on this new OpenGL "feature"? Is affecting NVIDIA users too.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by cjr2k3 View Post
                          I reinstaled my SO from Scratch and everything else (Ubuntu 8.04 x86_64 + fglrx 8.7) and my first thing was to install WoW and try how it would work from an almost "tweakless" (wine reg tweak was done) install.

                          Results... Last WoW patch really messed up with OpenGL. From wine appdb everyone is complaining from a blank screen! Pixel Shaders must be turn off if someone in Linux want to play. Besides that game run normaly.

                          Didn't try some graphic intense situations to check how 8.7 is working from a "clean" point of view.

                          Any one have any lights on this new OpenGL "feature"? Is affecting NVIDIA users too.
                          Not affecting my nvidia card. I made this guide a while ago. Alot of people have had success. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654681

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Spydr4590 View Post
                            Not affecting my nvidia card. I made this guide a while ago. Alot of people have had success. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654681
                            I can play now, just had to deactivate Pixel Shaders (SET M2UPixelShaders "0" in config.wtf)

                            Do you have pixel shaders on? Some people on appdb are saying they get a blank screen if they use pixel shaders with the latest patch (both ATI and NVIDIA). I just wanted to know if someone had any ideia what causes this behaviour.

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                            • #59
                              Massive Corruption with 8.7!!! (WoW + Wine + Ubuntu 8.04 64Bits)

                              Trying 8.6 to see if it gets better, screenshot after the test!

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                              • #60
                                heh, ATi drivers have always sucked, its a fact. Windows or Linux, doesn't matter. After Radeon 9700pro it was all douwn hill. I think the best ATi card i've run was the 8500LE.

                                Why doesn't the ATi guys build and test against newer libGL? whats with your drivers already? You are ruining a good product. You are forcing people to buy Nvidia.

                                The HD4870 is $300 in store right now, but i'm gonna buy the $329 9800GX2 cos it actually works on Linux.

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