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  • razor85:
    this is NOT to defend amd/ati, but i can tell you one thing, nvidia isnt really much better, in fact, for 2d, the 8xxx series is completely worthless. it seems many people have problems with 8xxx cards causing lockups very often with smp kernel. not to mention the fact that nvidias driver generally makes sure to crash the system atleast once every 2 months..

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    • Originally posted by Redeeman View Post
      razor85:
      this is NOT to defend amd/ati, but i can tell you one thing, nvidia isnt really much better, in fact, for 2d, the 8xxx series is completely worthless. it seems many people have problems with 8xxx cards causing lockups very often with smp kernel. not to mention the fact that nvidias driver generally makes sure to crash the system atleast once every 2 months..
      YMMV, I can honestly say that I do not have the same experience as you Redeeman. 2D and stability certianly isn't a problem here on several 8800GT systems, all running 173.08 drivers and all with a SMP kernel on both ATI and Nvidia MB chipsets. I honestly can't remember the last time nvidia's drivers crashed the system. The biggest issue I've had with their drivers was the "fan bug" that was fixed for me on the next release of the driver.

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      • You might try 171.06.01, which is at least in benchmarks a little faster then 173.08 and is the last driver which can be patched for use with a xen enabled kernel (like ubuntu server kernel).

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        • Originally posted by Kano View Post
          You might try 171.06.01, which is at least in benchmarks a little faster then 173.08 and is the last driver which can be patched for use with a xen enabled kernel (like ubuntu server kernel).
          Setting the IGNORE_XEN_PRESENCE environment variable to a non-zero value should be the only thing you need to do to disable the Xen checks with 173.08.

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          • Originally posted by Redeeman View Post
            razor85:
            this is NOT to defend amd/ati, but i can tell you one thing, nvidia isnt really much better, in fact, for 2d, the 8xxx series is completely worthless. it seems many people have problems with 8xxx cards causing lockups very often with smp kernel. not to mention the fact that nvidias driver generally makes sure to crash the system atleast once every 2 months..
            You are the first person i heard complaining about the nvidia drivers, mainly on 8xxx cards xD

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            • Originally posted by razor85 View Post
              You are the first person i heard complaining about the nvidia drivers, mainly on 8xxx cards xD

              "Lurk more" as they say. I've seen my fair share of complaints from both ATI and nvidia users, on the nvidia side usually users with 8xxx cards. Both driver sets have problems; to claim otherwise is just silly. In both situations, usually it ends up being something in the target system that conflicts with the module. Of course, there are also bugs and compatibility issues, but again, they both have their fair share of these kinds of problems.
              Last edited by Melcar; 05-26-2008, 05:41 PM.

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              • @deanjo

                Incorrect info. Btw. setting that var is not enough for kernel 2.6.24 which is used in hardy so patching was required - the patch would still apply but now you get a GPL only error.

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                • Originally posted by Kano View Post
                  @deanjo

                  Incorrect info. Btw. setting that var is not enough for kernel 2.6.24 which is used in hardy so patching was required - the patch would still apply but now you get a GPL only error.
                  Interesting, setting the variable was all that was needed for me on opensuse 11 with the 2.6.25 kernel.

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                  • I highly doubt that this kernel is xen enabled.

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                    • Originally posted by fettouhi View Post
                      For me the 8.5 release seems a bit snappier than 8.4 and especially 8.3. I'm still getting quite a bit of flickering in video playback when compiz is on. Also I'm getting quite a lot of corruptions on the screen (many small white/black lines all over the screen). These have been there since 8.3 but seemed to be gone with 8.4 but have returned with 8.5. Does anybody have solution how to get rid of the lines? They appear when scrolling in a window and opening of programs but disappear again upon scrolling further again. My biggest issue with this release is the black screen I get before every video playback. I thought this was fixed already (using xv). This bug has existed since they introduced AIGLX.

                      Regards

                      André

                      PS. here is my xorg.conf

                      Hey man read a couple of posts before...

                      SET TexturedXrender to "false" or "off"!!!

                      Then as su give aticonfig --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --tls=1
                      Then restart X and you will find out what am I talking about...

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                      • Originally posted by Kano View Post
                        I highly doubt that this kernel is xen enabled.
                        Seems like I'm not the only one that it works for.

                        http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/how-to...ernel-with-xen

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                        • Maybe that works for 2.6.25 but not for 2.6.24 server kernel from hardy. Try if you like.

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                          • big desktop screwed

                            I used 8.4 in big desktop mode, with two screens. One is 1680x1050, the other 1280x1024. This worked almost perfectly. But after updating to 8.5 the 1280-screen only shows a distorted image. It seems the driver refuses to drive two panels with different resolutions.

                            Neither AMDCCCLE nor aticonfig can solve the problem.

                            I had to downgrade to 8.4 again.

                            Anyone else had this problem, and maybe found a solution?

                            I can't tell you how much I beg for decent xrandr support in fglrx! Xrandr would also reduce the hassle of switching screen configs and resolutions when using a projector. This is a major problem for me, because I have to use my laptop (with X1300 mobility gfx) for presentations!

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                            • I'm also running a primary 1680x1050 monitor + secondary 1280x1024 monitor, and in 8.5 I have to re-set the resolution to "2960x1050" twice before everything is OK. It seems that it tries to run the second panel at 1400x1050 resolution, even though I "force" it to run 1280x1024???

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                              • Originally posted by grigi View Post
                                I'm also running a primary 1680x1050 monitor + secondary 1280x1024 monitor, and in 8.5 I have to re-set the resolution to "2960x1050" twice before everything is OK.
                                Do you use aticonfig for that?

                                The funny thing is that with 8.4, xrandr -q tells me that the resolution is 3360x1050, but the windowmanager (kwin) correctly uses only the available area on the second screen (1280x1024). Except for the mouse pointer which can move beyond the screen limit, but I can live with that

                                With 8.5 and the same xorg.conf, it tries to use the 1680 res on the second screen as well, and the panel tries to interpolate it, with little success.

                                Please, ATI, give us full xrandr support with true dynamic switching of resolution and display mode! Please!

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