Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

AGP users, UNITE!!!!

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • AGP users, UNITE!!!!

    Hi folks. I have a x700 AGP 256mb video card, and I haven't been able to get working a fglrx driver which supports AIGLX.

    I've lost about a hundred hours(since october 24th 2007) searching the web and making tests, trying to get AIGLX working since the first driver which supports is(8.42)http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.42.3.html), and none of them worked nice in my card. In 8.42 driver I got it partially working, the bug of the driver not assigning and IRQ to the card, which makes it work very slow, and compiz was full of glitches, making it unusable. The later releases just freeze my entire system, catalyst 7.1, 7.2 and 8.1 . I really lost my patience and even decided to sell my card, to get an nvidia one, but nobody buys AGP cards anymore
    So I'm stuck with it.

    My point is:
    Maybe the agp users are not well represented in the beta testers team. I've talked to bridgman, a user on the forum who works on AMD/ATI, and he said he'd get me in their beta testers mailing list, so we at least make sure the developers know about the problem, they are aware of the problem with AGP cards, but they though it'd be a 2x00 series problem, and it seems not.

    All of you who use AGP cards, please make a post in this thread posting your system configuration:

    ATI Graphic card

    * Monitor type(lcd, crt, tv) and resolutions used

    * Motherboard/chipset model

    * Processor type

    * Ammount of memmory

    * Distro used

    * Kernel version

    * Xorg version

    * fglrx version

    * is AIGLX working ?

    And please, justify the choice of the version of your driver. I use 8.40 because it's stable in my system, even though it doesn't support AIGLX.

    After having this thread with many AGP users, we will be able to organize ourselves better to give more feedback about AGP cards. bridgman told me that there were a lot of AGP users in the beta testers group, but most of them migrated to PCI-E, so they're needing more.

    What I want is understand if it's a driver problem, a distro problem, a Xorg problem, the more reports we have, the easier it'll be to track it.

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by israel_miranda; 02-13-2008, 12:56 PM.

  • #2
    Your card is old enough to work without fglrx and you can use AIGLX using the free driver. You can easyly verify this by booting Kanotix and then start beryl-manager in system menu...

    Comment


    • #3
      Hey israel_miranda, how about getting people to post what Ati AGP card they use also? Bit daft not to include that

      I'll bite:

      H.I.S. Radeon HD 2600 XT AGP 8x IceQ 'Turbo' 512 MB GDDR3

      * Motherboard/chipset model: Abit AV8 / Via K8T800Pro

      * Processor type : AMD Athlon 64X2 4800+ Socket 939

      * Ammount of memmory: 4GB DDR400

      * Distro used: Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon 64-bit

      * Kernel version: 2.6.22-14(.51)-generic with bootoptions "ro quiet splash nodmraid notsc noapic nolapic acpi=strict"

      * Xorg version: 7.2-5ubuntu1

      * fglrx version: none work so I stick with radeonhd 1.1.0

      Comment


      • #4
        My system:

        Hi Kano, I know the radeonhd driver is very good and supports AIGLX, but AFIK, it doesn't support 3d acceleration for games. Is that right? I confess I never tried the open source drivers, since I've heard it doesn't support acceleration for games. I play some games once in a while, that's why I didn't try it.

        Swoopy, good point!!!
        I forgot the most important
        I corrected it in the above post

        BTW, here goes my system:

        Saphire Radeon x700 AGP 8x 128 bits 256 MB DDR1

        * CRT 19" monitor: model AOC 9klr Spectrum with a 1280x1024 resolution.

        * Motherboard/chipset model: Intel D865PERL / intel i865P

        * Processor type : Pentium 4 2.6ghz HT 512kb cache Northwood core socket 478

        * Ammount of memmory: 2GB DDR400

        * Distro used: Debian 4.0 Etch 32bit (stable)

        * Kernel version: 2.6.18-16-686 with bootoptions "ro"

        * Xorg version: 7.1.0-19

        * fglrx version: 8.40.4, the most stable and recent driver that worked on my system.
        Last edited by israel_miranda; 02-13-2008, 06:27 AM.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by israel_miranda View Post
          Hi Kano, I know the radeonhd driver is very good and supports AIGLX, but AFIK, it doesn't support 3d acceleration for games. Is that right?

          You got it mixed around... RadeonHD doesn't support AIGLX nor 3D acceleration. The RadeonHD driver is JUST for the R500 and R600 series. The Radeon (non-HD) driver DOES support AIGLX and 3D acceleration and that goes back to the R100 series. Your card is supported by the Radeon driver.
          Michael Larabel
          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

          Comment


          • #6
            I've got a Sapphire Radeon X1950 pro 512MB on the following system:

            nforce3 motherboard chipset
            AMD Athlon 64 2800+
            2GB corsair PC400
            Ubuntu 7.10 (or, in fact Xubuntu 7.10)
            2.6.22-14 generic Ubuntu kernel
            xorg: 7.2-5ubuntu13
            fglrx: 8.37 (default in 7.10)

            Comment


            • #7
              Hi israel_miranda. I'm a fellow AGP graphics card user, x800 pro 256. I had problems with it too and frankly I was stuck without hardware acceleration for quite a while. I'll be glad to help out. I'll have to check the driver version I use on mine since I got it working on Xubuntu without much trouble (also downloaded drivers straight from ubuntu, which almost never fails).

              Sadly, I think AGP users aren't getting enough attention anymore. Any of the driver issues, are likely to be left unresolved until I bit the bullet and decided to ditch everything I had and start fresh.

              Comment


              • #8
                Not at the moment - But!

                Hi, I've been keeping an eye on this phorum due to my AGP card needs.

                I currently do not use an ATI/AMD Video card.
                I wish to purchase an AGP HD2600Pro, but I have been holding back due to problems others have been experiencing.

                But count me among the United!

                Cheers.
                D.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Great! Michael, I think a name change is required: Phoronix Phorums !!! Sheer genius!

                  Back on topic, my hardware setup is presently:

                  Sapphire X1950pro 512
                  nforce3 motherboard chipset
                  AMD Opteron 165
                  2GB OCZ PC400
                  Gentoo
                  2.6.23-gentoo-r2 (changes occasionally)
                  xorg: 7.1
                  fglrx: 8.452 (8.1)

                  Also having difficulty with aiglx.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Intel Pentium 4 3.4 Ghz
                    R420 JK Radeon x800
                    1.5Gigs ram
                    Ubunbtu Gutsy
                    fglrx: 8.452 (8.1)
                    X Window System Version 1.3.0
                    Build Operating System: Linux Ubuntu (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3)
                    Last edited by Paroxysm; 02-14-2008, 03:24 PM.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Saphire Radeon x1600Pro AGP 8x 512MB DDR2

                      * Motherboard/chipset model: Asrock K7NF2 / NFORCE2

                      * Processor type : SocketA AMD Athlon 2600+

                      * Ammount of memmory: 1.5GB DDR400

                      * Distro used: Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10

                      * Kernel version: 2.6.22-14

                      * Xorg version: 1.3.0

                      * fglrx version: 8.43.2 - newer just give a black screen and require hard reset

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Two AGP systems running mostly without problems:

                        #1:
                        * ATI Radeon X850PRO (BBA)
                        * ASUS K8V-X (VIA K8T800)
                        * AMD Athlon64 3000+ (S754)
                        * 1GB of RAM
                        * Ubuntu Gutsy
                        * Catalyst 7.11

                        I don't remember either the Xorg version or the kernel version, but it's a standard Gutsy installation. This system is running mostly without problems (flickering videos with xv/opengl when running compiz). Catalysts are 7.11 as I haven't really booted that system in awhile, so I haven't updated yet.

                        #2:
                        * ATI Radeon 9600SE (ASUS)
                        * ASUS A7V133 (VIA KT133A)
                        * AMD Athlon T-Bird 1GHz
                        * 512MB of RAM
                        * Arch Linux (Don't Panic)
                        * Xorg 1.4.0.90
                        * Kernel 2.6.24
                        * Catalyst 8.01

                        This system is running without any significant problems. I'd complain about performance, but then, read the specs again (I do think there's room for improvement in the 2D department).
                        EDIT: Catalysts are 8.01 simply because they are the latest.
                        Last edited by Pseus; 02-13-2008, 03:24 AM. Reason: delete quote...

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          ATI Radeon 9600 256MB AGP

                          * ASUS P4V800D-X (VIA PT880 Ultra)

                          * Pentium 4 3GHz 1MB Cache Socket 478 (HT disabled)

                          * 2x512MB DualDDR

                          * Kubuntu 7.10

                          * Kernel 2.6.22

                          * Xorg 7.2

                          * FGLRX 8.1

                          AIGLX+compiz never worked for me on FGLRX (on every FGLRX version since 8.42 I have only Xorg crashes when I try to use compiz) - the same was on Kubuntu 7.04. (I had multiseat in Kubuntu 6.06, now I haven't configured it yet in 7.10). In FGLRX 8.1 I have Xorg freeze on shutdown but I can shutdown my system when I switch to console and then type 'poweroff'.
                          Last edited by xeros; 02-13-2008, 05:12 AM.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            i recognized that all ati-cards WITHOUT this damn rialto bridge chip work very good, i have a 9600xt, 9550 and a X1600pro. i use gentoo linux, though i'm always up to date concerning drivers, kernel an software. i tested A LOT of combinations (kernel, xorg, fglrx) and nearly every combination worked with the 9600 and 9550... one month ago i switched to the X1600pro and BAM! nothing works. N O T H I N G ! ok, i have to admit, i only tested fglrx 8.01 and 7.12 , but i tested a few different kernel and xorg versions.
                            my first thought was: broken card. so i started my 2nd OS winXP and the card works really fine. no problems at all.
                            now i have to use winXP or linux with radeonHD. both work great

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Michael, thanks a lot!!
                              I'll try that later ;-)

                              Originally posted by MagicTempest View Post
                              I've got a Sapphire Radeon X1950 pro 512MB on the following system:

                              nforce3 motherboard chipset
                              AMD Athlon 64 2800+
                              2GB corsair PC400
                              Ubuntu 7.10 (or, in fact Xubuntu 7.10)
                              2.6.22-14 generic Ubuntu kernel
                              xorg: 7.2-5ubuntu13
                              fglrx: 8.37 (default in 7.10)
                              MagicTempest, do you have any error on the Xorg.0.log ?
                              Did the driver assigned an IRQ to your card?

                              Originally posted by liqor_mortis View Post
                              Great! Michael, I think a name change is required: Phoronix Phorums !!! Sheer genius!

                              Back on topic, my hardware setup is presently:

                              Sapphire X1950pro 512
                              nforce3 motherboard chipset
                              AMD Opteron 165
                              2GB OCZ PC400
                              Gentoo
                              2.6.23-gentoo-r2 (changes occasionally)
                              xorg: 7.1
                              fglrx: 8.452 (8.1)

                              Also having difficulty with aiglx.
                              liqor_mortis, have you got any errors on the Xorg.0.log ?
                              I also had problems with AIGLX in the 8.42 version making compiz unusable, but no IRQ was assigned to my card.
                              Catalyst 8.1 didn't work at all

                              Originally posted by Paroxysm View Post
                              Intel Pentium 4 3.4 Ghz
                              R420 JK Radeon x800
                              1.5Gigs ram
                              Ubunbtu Gutsy
                              Paroxysm, which xorg version, and driver version do you use?

                              Zlatan, the sames happens to me on fglrx 8.43.2 and newer ones.

                              Pseus, I already though of that, the rialto chip is the real problem.
                              I installed a radeon 9800 pro card on my system, and it didn't worked, but I confess I didn't make any aditional tests or checked the log for erros,
                              just wanted to see if it would work on my system, as it didn't I removed it and put back my x700. I'll do aditional tests on my cousin's computer(he has the 9800 pro now) and post it here later.


                              Xeros, I also didn't have success with the 9800 pro card, I'm starting to think it's not a rialto related problem :-(

                              Benneque, I'm not so sure of that...
                              I'll try do debug the errors on the 9800 pro card to try help out ATI devs


                              Hey guys, I forgot to ask you to post you display config as well, monitor types and resolutions.
                              The most information we collect, the easier will be to find the root of the problem.
                              I'll edit the first post.

                              Well, thank you guys!
                              In just one day, 14 posts already, you're doing a good job.

                              and, has any of you guys tried the open-source radeon(not the radeonhd) driver?
                              I'll try that out as soon as I can.
                              Last edited by israel_miranda; 02-14-2008, 06:00 AM.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X