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  • #31
    Hi brigdman,

    thx for tuning in!

    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    Are you using Compiz on the new drivers, or are you saying that 2d is slower on Cat 8.01 than on v8.40 with both drivers being used the same way ?
    Yes.
    I'm not using Compiz, but KDE/KWin 3.5.7. Specifically, I can observe the slowdown when moving a konsole window that has (pseudo-) transparency enabled (i.e., the screen background image under the konsole is copied with decreased luminance). When I hold my mouse cursor still for a short time, the konsole background is updated, and that's when the entire GUI freezes (with 100% CPU).

    This was not happening with an older version of the driver. I think it was 8.40, but unfortunately I can't go back.
    After doing rpm --erase for 8.452 and reinstalling 8.40 from the rpm all I get is a black screen .
    So it seems I'm stuck with slow 2d

    ---Edit---
    After rebooting twice, the behavior is back to normal - no slowdown anymore. Could this be related to the fact that I have an LCD hooked to my docking station's DVI port.

    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    Are you using EXA or XAA acceleration ?
    I don't know. There's no such option in my xorg.conf. How can I find out?

    Cheers,

    shamooki
    Last edited by shamooki; 01-18-2008, 12:09 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by koolmanoncampus View Post
      Using your trick of adding that to the file list I got the rpms generated.
      That's good news Are you also using F8? Which command did you exactly use to build the packages? Did you use ati-installer.sh too?

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      • #33
        I've been running on the cutting edge drivers for the past few months now, and so far all is right with the world. (Xv, video playback) with the sticking point being standby/hibernation.

        So, I'll give this a try later and see what happens.
        On that note, some of the video issues that I've seen users complain about (namely lack of Xv support? and tearing and the like) is now mentioned under known issues.

        I must say that even though some of you probably didn't get what you wanted, its nicer to see things being noticed more often now...(at least it seems like it to me). Yes, we know, it's been ages since it popped up, but hey...things seem to be picking up lately.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by givemesugarr View Post
          well, if ati-drivers-8.45 will be added today to portage, then gentoo users would get a lot of new packages since kde4.0.0 also has hit portage official today. as for the ebuild, you can modify it manually from the 8.443 one. but i'm sure that it will hit portage soon (today or tomorrow).
          Compositing will still not work with it when using kwin. (or )

          Ebuild changes are trivial, one only has to add amdpcsdb.default to the install routine.
          Apart from that (and that the =virtual/libstdc++-3.3 dep seems to be unneeded now, which isn't a big deal) it is trivial.

          Still this release has exactly the same bugs as the previous one, except maybe the widescreen bug which didn't bother me.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by shamooki View Post
            I'm not using Compiz, but KDE/KWin 3.5.7. Specifically, I can observe the slowdown when moving a konsole window that has (pseudo-) transparency enabled (i.e., the screen background image under the konsole is copied with decreased luminance). When I hold my mouse cursor still for a short time, the konsole background is updated, and that's when the entire GUI freezes (with 100% CPU).

            This was not happening with an older version of the driver. I think it was 8.40, but unfortunately I can't go back.
            OK. I'm still learning this, but it looks like KWin supports compositing however it is not enabled by default before 4.0. I'm not sure if it is enabled by default in 4.0. Do you happen to know if you have compositing enabled ? If so, that would explain why you are seeing slower 2d on the newer driver ('cause the older driver didn't support compositing through AIGLX).

            Originally posted by shamooki View Post
            I don't know. There's no such option in my xorg.conf. How can I find out?
            I think your log should indicate which acceleration option is being used. Pretty sure XAA is the default.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Uchikoma View Post
              I've been running on the cutting edge drivers for the past few months now, and so far all is right with the world. (Xv, video playback) with the sticking point being standby/hibernation.

              So, I'll give this a try later and see what happens.
              On that note, some of the video issues that I've seen users complain about (namely lack of Xv support? and tearing and the like) is now mentioned under known issues.

              I must say that even though some of you probably didn't get what you wanted, its nicer to see things being noticed more often now...(at least it seems like it to me). Yes, we know, it's been ages since it popped up, but hey...things seem to be picking up lately.
              I agree Uchikoma. It's nice to see the known issues list get "refreshed" and that all the issues in the previous release (1680x1050, corruption and suspend) should be fixed. It's just too bad it took another month to get the fixes out. I would love to see (bi-)weekly beta or closed user group releases so these issues can be picked sooner rather than later. Hopefully I'll be able to fix the package build issue so I can actually try the new goodness.

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              • #37
                Aaagggh! I feel your pain!

                Originally posted by Alexander Heß View Post
                Lucky for you. I have a T60p with a V5250 and 3D is corrupted...

                So, no optimism for me. AGAIN!
                But I am wondering: the graphics PCI ID is 0x71D4, correct? What happens if you "hack" the PCI ID to 0x71D5 instead, as was common practice before FireGL support became available anyway? Does 3D work then?

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                • #38
                  Problem disappeared

                  Thanks for the reply! I just updated my post above; after rebooting twice 2D speed is back to normal. Which is very good!

                  The best problems are those which go away by themselves

                  Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                  Do you happen to know if you have compositing enabled ?
                  No, compositing is not enabled.


                  Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                  I think your log should indicate which acceleration option is being used. Pretty sure XAA is the default.
                  My Xorg.0.log indicates XAA.

                  Cheers,

                  Michael

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                  • #39
                    Well, just installed 8.45 and it can't init AGP. just as 8.44.
                    Seems like I'll have to wait another month

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                    • #40
                      I know there was a hotfix which was released for the Windows driver which resolved the AGP issue. Maybe there will be something similar for Linux.

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                      • #41
                        Another user (Bigon) added their log to Bugzilla #983. Looks like the error from that log is "(EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize CMMQS driver."

                        NeoBrain, you had the "Preinit DAL" error, didn't you ? Is that still what you are seeing, or are you getting the CMMQS message as well ? Which GPU model are you seeing the problem on ?
                        Last edited by bridgman; 01-18-2008, 12:49 PM.

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                        • #42
                          I still get poor performance when using AIGLX, including the diagonal tearing when scrolling in firefox.

                          Anyone know of a fix or is it just down to ATI to get it sorted?

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                          • #43
                            No, it was just coming on the first startx after driver installation, on the second try it worked.

                            My problem was this one:
                            (**) fglrx(0): ATI GART size: 256 MB
                            (II) fglrx(0): [pci] find AGP GART
                            (II) fglrx(0): [agp] Mode=0x1f004e1b bridge: 0x1039/0x0746
                            (II) fglrx(0): [agp] AGP v1/2 disable mask 0x00000000
                            (II) fglrx(0): [agp] AGP v3 disable mask 0x00000000
                            (II) fglrx(0): [agp] enabling AGP with mode=0x1f004f1a
                            (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] Failed to remmap MC AGP aperture base!
                            (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
                            Which disables the 3d accel.
                            I have an X1600 (AGP) with 512 MB vram, my system has 512 MB ram, too.
                            Other users also had the same problem and it helped them to set the AGP aperture size in the BIOS to another vram size.
                            However, I've tried all possible numbers for that from 32 MB to 256 MB (my BIOS's maximum), but none worked.
                            Had worked with 8.43 btw, further information is here...:
                            http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7044

                            I've allready tried many things with givemesuggar, but I came to the decision that I'll better wait until AMD fixes this

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                            • #44
                              Hmm getting poorer 3d performance and what seems like a "frame lag" where it runs fine for a few seconds then freezes for a few and then runs fine for a few more and then freezes and so on. Does this on fgl_glxgears and glxgears. I ran a game also and it would be moving fine then it would appear to skip a bunch of frames and then keep going repeating this the whole time. Anyone else have this issue. I was also able to reproduce this at other resolutions so its not the 64 pixel bug. I just checked dmesg and its flooded with errors related to fglrx. I think I'm going to go back to 7-12 its not like the modeline bug really effected me anyway.
                              Last edited by Compxpert; 01-18-2008, 01:23 PM.

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                              • #45
                                So, I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 and suspend obviously wasn't working until Catalyst 7.12. However, widescreen stopped working along with that. So I figured I would just wait until 8.1 for widescreen and suspend (and 3D acceleration, which is really the only plus I care about that ATI proprietary drivers have over the others). However, suspend broke. Goddamn it. It turns off the screen, the harddrive spins up, and then nothing. Dead. I have to do a hard reset.

                                Peter

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