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  • Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    We are still working on 6xx AGP support. If anyone happens to get their system working before we finish that's great (please let us know, it might help other users) but even we are not expecting AGP to work today on HD2xxx/HD3xxx parts under Linux.

    In the short term the open source drivers are probably the best bet. Wish I had better news, but the devs are working on it.
    Thanks for keeping us updated bridgman. As far as I'm concerned it's keeping me 'on board'.
    It truly helps, in my view, that you're being responsive to the AGP users needs, even if that promised fix is only in the stage of being worked on.

    If you guys over at AMD get this working properly, I might likely upgrade to a 3850 AGP later this year.

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    • Originally posted by vitalyb View Post
      Hello,

      just wanted to make a short report that 8.3 seems to be stable for me with following hardware:
      MOBO: Asus A8V Deluxe (VIA chipset, 1018 beta 001 bios, 128M AGP aperture)
      CPU: Athlon X2 3800+
      GPU: Asus HD2600Pro AGP 512M
      RAM: 3G

      2D working, TexturedVideo working, 3D seems to be OK also.

      dmesg, Xorg.log can be found here: http://vitalyb.mail333.com/ati/
      Would it be possible for you to post your xorg.conf also?
      I noticed something else:
      Code:
      (II) fglrx(0): [pcie] 258048 kB allocated
      It allocates only 256 MB of memory.
      I've been starting to suspect that only the 256 MB (allocated or physical) AGP RadeonHD2xxx cards work with the current fglrx driver .... a working 512MB card would remove that suspicion, but unfortunately I found that line

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      • The tricky thing is that the chips allow a maxumum of 256K of video RAM to be directly mapped into the CPU address space. The registers which do the mapping are traditionally called "BARs" (Base Address Register, or Base/Aperture, or something like that) so *some* of the allocation messages are going to cap out at 256M no matter how much VRAM you have.

        This normally doesn't matter, since the whole idea is that you want the GPU drawing into video memory, not the CPU

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        • Originally posted by Swoopy
          Would it be possible for you to post your xorg.conf also?
          Sure, same link. But there's nothing special.

          I've uploaded lspci and glxinfo outputs also.

          Originally posted by Swoopy
          It allocates only 256 MB of memory.
          I've been starting to suspect that only the 256 MB (allocated or physical) AGP RadeonHD2xxx cards work with the current fglrx driver .... a working 512MB card would remove that suspicion, but unfortunately I found that line
          radeonhd driver displays alike "warning" message. Looks like there's no way for CPU to see more than 256M per PCI device (at least on PCI+AGP VIA chipsets?).

          BTW, for 8.1 driver, if AGP Aperture was set to 256M (maximum available size), GPU couldn't even initialize - black screen all I got. I'm on 128M since then.

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          • Originally posted by vitalyb View Post
            Sure, same link. But there's nothing special.

            I've uploaded lspci and glxinfo outputs also.


            radeonhd driver displays alike "warning" message. Looks like there's no way for CPU to see more than 256M per PCI device (at least on PCI+AGP VIA chipsets?).
            Not so.
            Here is the corresponding line from my Xorg.0.log, mere moments before the system is hung by the fglrx driver trying to load on my HD 2600 XT AGP with 512 MB DDR3, using a Via K8T800Pro chipset:

            Code:
            (II) fglrx(0): [pcie] 520192 kB allocated

            [QUOTE=vitalyb;26847]
            BTW, for 8.1 driver, if AGP Aperture was set to 256M (maximum available size), GPU couldn't even initialize - black screen all I got. I'm on 128M since then.[/QUOTE}

            I've had similar problems on 7-11 which at least gave me partial graphic activity before it hung. For me it was 256MB aperture or higher that was needed to get the graphics before the hang (including the rotating mouse cursor and all),
            at 128MB or below the system would hang with a black screen like it does for me all the time with the 8-3 Catalyst.
            I've tried almost all Aperture options with all Catalyst fglrx-en since 7-10 (equivalent) until I gave up at 8-2.

            Now I'll await the official "AGP works now" declaration by the AMD/ATI developers before frustrating myself further

            -edit- Thanks for the xorg.conf, vitalyb.
            There's some stuff in there that I didn't know was possible to do.
            What made you add the following bit?:
            Code:
            	SubSection "extmod"
            		Option	    "omit XFree86-DGA"
            	EndSubSection
            EndSection
            Last edited by Swoopy; 03-09-2008, 05:53 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Swoopy
              HD 2600 XT AGP with 512 MB DDR3, using a Via K8T800Pro chipset:

              (II) fglrx(0): [pcie] 520192 kB allocated
              Interesting, I've spent some time trying to make it "see" 512M but with no result (I thought that's the reason why it isn' t working, now it looks like the opposite ). radeonhd sees 256M too for me.

              Originally posted by Swoopy
              What made you add the following bit?:
              Option "omit XFree86-DGA"
              I can't remember exactly, sorry. I believe it has nothing to do with Radeons or ATI.

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              • It works. But with terrible performance...
                Used vitalyb's xorg.conf as sample.
                My Xorg.0.log is also similar to vitalyb's
                I've to go back to radeonhd.
                Last edited by Scraelos; 03-13-2008, 07:29 AM.

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                • Got two mysterious crashes (no panics, 1 lockup, 1 reboot. Probably X) in past 4 days. System is running 24/7.

                  Not so stable...
                  back to radeonhd

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                  • I just bought a Asus AH2600Pro 512MB AGP Video Card.

                    Now let me get this straight, at the moment, for this card (and similar) there is NO WAY to get decent performance in gaming?

                    The only thing I have installed thus far as a driver is the 8.3 hotfix driver. I fired up rome total war, and the performance was pitiful, it was about equal to a 9600.

                    Is anyone actually getting good/normal results with this (or similar) AGP card?

                    Any news on whether things will be fixed, or is it just expected that things will stay horrendous for a while?

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                    • Originally posted by junkmonk View Post
                      I just bought a Asus AH2600Pro 512MB AGP Video Card.

                      Now let me get this straight, at the moment, for this card (and similar) there is NO WAY to get decent performance in gaming?

                      The only thing I have installed thus far as a driver is the 8.3 hotfix driver. I fired up rome total war, and the performance was pitiful, it was about equal to a 9600.

                      Is anyone actually getting good/normal results with this (or similar) AGP card?

                      Any news on whether things will be fixed, or is it just expected that things will stay horrendous for a while?
                      well, i changed some stuff on my xorg.conf, and it seemed to help a bit... but i must make it clear, that didn't really now what I was doing... for example, I enabled opengl overlay too... enabled some "DRI" stuff.... well... with this, it seemed to get a better performance... I didn't run any big game in it yet, but kde4 desktop effects works alright (didn't try with compiz/beryl yet), and on Armagetron Advanced (that 3d tron-like game), with all settings at max, i got around 100 fps...

                      I'm not on linux right now (woke up a little late, someone here at home must have booted into window$), but as soon as i finish some stuff here, i'll go check out my xorg.conf and i hope you guys can tell if what i did was totally stupid or actually makes some sense...

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                      • Here's what I changed on my xorg.conf file:

                        Section "Module"
                        Load "dri"
                        Load "glx"

                        (...)

                        #Section "Monitor"
                        # Identifier "SyncMaster"
                        # Option "DPMS"
                        #EndSection

                        Section "Monitor"
                        Identifier "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
                        Option "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
                        Option "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
                        Option "DPMS" "true"
                        EndSection

                        #Section "Device"
                        #
                        # Driver "fglrx"
                        # Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
                        # Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
                        # Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc ATI Default Card"
                        # Driver "vesa"
                        # BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
                        #EndSection

                        Section "Device"
                        Identifier "aticonfig-Device[0]"
                        Driver "fglrx"
                        Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
                        Option "OpenGLOverlay" "on"
                        EndSection

                        #Section "Screen"
                        # Identifier "Default Screen"
                        # Device "ATI Technologies Inc ATI Default Card"
                        # Monitor "SyncMaster"
                        # DefaultDepth 24
                        # SubSection "Display"
                        # Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                        # EndSubSection
                        #EndSection

                        Section "Screen"
                        Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
                        Device "aticonfig-Device[0]"
                        Monitor "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
                        DefaultDepth 24
                        SubSection "Display"
                        Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
                        Viewport 0 0
                        Depth 24
                        EndSubSection
                        EndSection

                        Section "dri"
                        Mode 0666
                        EndSection

                        basically, i added module and dri sections, commented what i thought was duplicate stuff (there were two monitor, device and screen sections), and enabled opengl overlay...

                        so... my question is, does any of this changes actually make any sense?
                        i didn't notice any negative impact on my system, so, i think they're harmless, at least...

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                        • Originally posted by theblackkat View Post
                          well, i changed some stuff on my xorg.conf, and it seemed to help a bit... but i must make it clear, that didn't really now what I was doing... for example, I enabled opengl overlay too... enabled some "DRI" stuff.... well... with this, it seemed to get a better performance... I didn't run any big game in it yet, but kde4 desktop effects works alright (didn't try with compiz/beryl yet), and on Armagetron Advanced (that 3d tron-like game), with all settings at max, i got around 100 fps...

                          I'm not on linux right now (woke up a little late, someone here at home must have booted into window$), but as soon as i finish some stuff here, i'll go check out my xorg.conf and i hope you guys can tell if what i did was totally stupid or actually makes some sense...

                          You may be one of the few who actually got fglrx working on a 512 MB RadeonHD 2xxx _AGP_ card.
                          Officially, there is no support for AGP yet.
                          On my own 512 MB HD2600XT AGP, the driver just hangs. No error, no crash, just a black screen and an unresponsive PC.

                          What kind of motherboard / chipset do you have?
                          Which CPU?
                          How much RAM on the motherboard?
                          Which Linux distro and kernel version (32-bit or 64-bit) are you running?

                          TIA, Swoopy

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                          • My motherboard is a Foxconn (generic Intel manufacturer, I guess), and the chipset is Intel Springdale-G i865G, Pentium 4 3.06GHz 1Mb L2 Cache processor and 1Gb DDR (2x512, Dual Channel).
                            I'm using Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14 (32-bit).

                            Well, I think that describes my system. But I run into some issues form time to time, like an EXTREME slowdown after exiting that Armagetron game, Compiz simply refuses to run, but other than that, it seems to be alright. I still need to do some tests on "heavier" games, like Flight Gear, UT2004, or even maybe World of Warcraft on Wine...

                            Just for the record, i intalled everything using a tutorial found around the web, I'll post the link here if I happen to remember, or when I get home.

                            ^_^

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                            • Originally posted by Swoopy View Post
                              You may be one of the few who actually got fglrx working on a 512 MB RadeonHD 2xxx _AGP_ card.
                              Officially, there is no support for AGP yet.
                              On my own 512 MB HD2600XT AGP, the driver just hangs. No error, no crash, just a black screen and an unresponsive PC.
                              Same here with HD 2400 pro AGP.

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                              • I was looking to buy this card (2900XT AGP) and all this driver talk is holding me back. Anyway I found something that might be useful probably not. I was browsing for a card on newegg and I came across this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241072
                                only two people reviewed it giving it 5 stars, well the interesting thing is if you go to the images of the card with the cd and manual the cd says on it 8.43 I don't know whether that refers to the catalyst drivers I've been reading. If so they might work for your cards the drivers can be found here http://www.gecube.com/software-drive...earch=2600+agp This is probably nonsense due to noobness if so ignore
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