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  • Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    It doesn't matter now, but did you have a chance to try the open source drivers (radeonhd or radeon) ? Both of them should have worked with your card and while neither had HW acceleration they should have still given much better performance than the vesa driver.
    Hey!
    I've been struggling with radeonhd, 2d support worked but only on second video port through dvi-to-vga converter (poor quality, and still no 3d).
    Anyways, glad you're up and running now. If it makes you feel any better, Linux and Windows support came at the same time
    Ah, don't tell me! I had issues on windows as well, having regular and pointless crashes with many games.

    Btw, and they lived happily ever after

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    • Blimey!

      I got the fglrx 8.491 driver working on my RadeonHD 2600XT 512MB GDDR3 AGP.
      I knew in the end it was going to be a simple setting that fixes it, but ....
      All I had to do to make the hangs stop was set "mem=3500M" on the kernel boot line somewhere after the splash parameter in /boot/grub/menu.lst

      Apparently the fact that my PC is built with 4 GB memory had an effect here ... I lose a bit of RAM but I get 6x performance boost in glxgears and functional googleearth, big dual-screen display instead of 2 clones (but why doesn't it persist?), working amdcccle, good video playback and possibly, if I can get the act together compiz eye-candy support!!?

      Thank you ATI/AMD for finally making the hardware I bought work in the OS I want! (albeit with some caveats)

      I might be sploshing out for a 3850AGP soon after all ....
      Last edited by Swoopy; 05-30-2008, 05:01 PM.

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      • Hello, i have an ati radeon hd 2600 pro agp too. I have it working with 3d effects and compiz, in my ubuntu 8.04
        Here's how i could make it work, maybe it works for all of you too.
        Download the latest driver from ati (http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html)
        In terminal:
        sudo apt-get update
        (we install driver)
        sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8-5-x86_64.run
        sudo aticonfig --initial
        sudo aticonfig -overlay-type=Xv
        Reboot and that's it.
        One other thing, it only worked to me with the 2...16 kernel. When i updated it to the 2.6....17 kernel i had a blanck screen. First time i tried it didn't work. If that happens, i suggest you reinstall ubuntu and then try again.
        Hope it works. Good Luck!!.
        Bye, Ansraliant

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        • Hello, i've bought a HD 2600 XT 512 MB, and using Catalyst 8.5 on a 2.6.25 kernel on Debian i got 4000 FPS in glxgears(not fgl_glxgears) which is really poor. I got the same result with my old, dusty nvidia 6600 card. I couldn't get Compiz to work(don't know why), i think i'm gonna change my distro(debian isn't actualy good for desktops) or in a worst case scenario get rid of my card.

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          • Hey Phoenix, I have the same card, and haven't had luck yet either. I think we'll have to wait for the next driver revision (At least AMD has been good about monthly driver updates) for our card to get support. So now it's the waiting game for both of us.

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            • Originally posted by Mr. Hilarious View Post
              Another succes story!

              But, I needed to disable AGP by setting "BusType" "PCI" in xorg.conf. But, OTOH, after I did that, I seem to have a working, accelerated 2D desktop, and 3D applications also work!
              I have had a problem with locks on OpenGL, Xv and when exiting/starting server..

              That fixed OpenGL but still have problem with Xv everything just locks up when watching video with mplayer

              *** Edit ***

              Or NVM I must have been done something wrong to make it lockup on OpenGL because i reconfigured x and run on vanilla conf now and it works the same way..

              OpenGL works.. locks when restarting x, movies is out of the question atleast with vlc/mplayer, so no pr0n for me :'(

              Does anyone have a success story with a Sapphire HD 2400 PRO AGP ?
              Last edited by Rexam; 06-05-2008, 02:06 PM.

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              • Originally posted by phoenix12345 View Post
                Hello, i've bought a HD 2600 XT 512 MB, and using Catalyst 8.5 on a 2.6.25 kernel on Debian i got 4000 FPS in glxgears(not fgl_glxgears) which is really poor. I got the same result with my old, dusty nvidia 6600 card.
                On a simple test like glxgears I'm actually surprised the 6600 isn't *faster* than the 2600, given that it's an old 8 pipe chip against a new 4 pipe chip. The 6600 should have higher fill-rate which is what tends to limit performance on simple apps, but the 2600 has more shader power which is what matters on newer apps.

                If you wanted to roughly compare the cards in terms of rop/tex/alu the 6600 would be 8/8/8 while the 2600 is more like 4/8/16 or 4/8/20. Modern games are rarely fill-rate limited, so the number of rops is tending to go down while the number of alus (shaders) is tending to go up.

                As a result, glxgears performance does not really track the performance of modern games and apps.

                I miss the good old days; $glxgears -iacknowledgethatglxgearsisnotabenchmark
                Last edited by bridgman; 06-05-2008, 01:24 PM.

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                • Well i guess bad habits never go away(like testing a card with glxgears), but what "modern" benchmark(on linux) should i try to test my video card?

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                  • Hmm it seems that the only thing that i have problem with is XVideo.
                    When i try to do anything with it the comp locks up.. Sometimes i can move the mouse around sometimes not. Other then that i just push the power button for soft restart.

                    I can't find any strange things in logs, is there anyway to debug this to get some clue what to do about it?

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                    • Originally posted by phoenix12345 View Post
                      Well i guess bad habits never go away(like testing a card with glxgears), but what "modern" benchmark(on linux) should i try to test my video card?
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                      • Originally posted by phoenix12345 View Post
                        Well i guess bad habits never go away(like testing a card with glxgears), but what "modern" benchmark(on linux) should i try to test my video card?
                        Every time I ask that I get pointed to glxgears then get a lecture on how it's not a real benchmark.

                        I suspect this is why people still use glxgears

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                        • Originally posted by Rexam View Post
                          I can't find any strange things in logs, is there anyway to debug this to get some clue what to do about it?
                          This probably isn't it, but I think the logs should tell you whether you are running textured video or video overlay. It's supposed to default to TexturedVideo on an HD2xxx card but that would be a good first thing to check.

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                          • Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                            This probably isn't it, but I think the logs should tell you whether you are running textured video or video overlay. It's supposed to default to TexturedVideo on an HD2xxx card but that would be a good first thing to check.
                            It goes for Textured Video, so that isn't the problem.


                            Code:
                            (II) fglrx(0): Using adapter: 1:0.0.
                            (II) fglrx(0): [FB] Find the MC FB aperturs range(MCFBBase = 0xf0000000, MCFBSiz
                            e = 0x10000000)
                            (--) fglrx(0): VideoRAM: 262144 kByte, Type: DDR2
                            (II) fglrx(0): AGP card detected
                            (**) fglrx(0): Forced into PCI mode
                            (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported
                            This is bit strange? even if i do Option "BusType" "AGP"

                            Code:
                            (II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux/libfglrxdrm.so
                            (==) fglrx(0): Capabilities: 0x00000000
                            (==) fglrx(0): CapabilitiesEx: 0x00000000
                            (==) fglrx(0): cpuFlags: 0x8000001d
                            (==) fglrx(0): OpenGL ClientDriverName: "fglrx_dri.so"
                            (**) fglrx(0): ATI GART size: 255 MB
                            (II) fglrx(0): [pcie] 261120 kB allocated
                            (II) fglrx(0): [drm] DRM buffer queue setup: nbufs = 100 bufsize = 65536
                            (==) fglrx(0): UseFastTLS=0
                            (==) fglrx(0): BlockSignalsOnLock=1
                            Here it says GART size 256 no matter what i declare in bios, but maybe not the same thing?
                            also a [pcie] is a bit strange?

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                            • By the way RadeonHD now supports DRI for R500 GPU's and R600 acceleration should be finished in a couple of months.

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                              • radeonhd and R/RV5xx: 2D Isn't Enough

                                Originally posted by phoenix12345 View Post
                                By the way RadeonHD now supports DRI for R500 GPU's and R600 acceleration should be finished in a couple of months.
                                DRI support for R5xx-series GPUs seems to be both card and distribution-specific (not every R5xx/RV5xx-based card is supported by the open-source driver; while the radeonhd driver may support 2D on them all, all too many folks like me have been missing both drm and DRI, and you have to have drm support for DRI to work). Worse, more often than not, with chipsets such as my own RV535 (X1650 and derivatives), typically, Linux distributions install the "radeonhd" driver, which is admittedly fast in 2D (faster than the cross-ported FireGL-based Linux Catalysts) but absolutely lacking in 3D (I've never gotten drm, and thus DRI, working with any open-source ATI driver in either Ubuntu or openSuSE). So far, those that *have* gotten the 3D working with the open-source drivers have been using Debian-based distributions (especially Ubuntu) and have also built the drivers from source (naturally, using the "ati", not "radeonhd" driver). With openSuSE, as long as you have the kernel-source, building a custom RPM based on the ATI FireGL drivers is pretty darn simple (I even managed to build one for 11.0 RC1, and I hate building RPMs).

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