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  • #46
    Originally posted by sastraxi View Post
    In my dual monitor fglrx setup, I can just drag the gnome bar over to the second monitor. As long as gnome's appearance preferences are set to the dual monitor size (something like 3360x1050) as the default, this sticks with every reboot.

    What I'd like:
    - no more flickering xvideo/opengl windows under compiz-fusion
    - faster scrolling under compiz-fusion (firefox, adobe acrobat).
    - automatic display hotplugging and a nice CCC interface to support it.
    - powerplay options taking effect when I plug in and unplug the AC power on the laptop, with a CCC interface for it (like in Windows).
    I feel stupid for not trying to click and drag. Curse myself for not being able to fully understand the GNOME philosophy of not torturing the user with settings buried 500 clicks deep!

    Does this make the login screen appear on the desktop the main taskbar is on too? Because the login window is also on the monitor I don't want it to be on (My only other wish then for my dual monitor setup is to have another AWN bar on the second monitor, listing only the tasks on that monitor and whatever buttons I decide to put there)

    I really think ATI needs to throw a lot of manpower behind the linux driver AND control center. CCC in Linux is like a grain of sand, and CCC in Windows is like a beach. Not to say it isn't useful and improving with each release, it is just sorely lacking the features the Windows version has to offer. Of course I will take the video flickering fix over a better CCC any day!

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    • #47
      ati sux ass

      Originally posted by Source Of Radiance View Post
      No but seriously, I never try to convert ATI users to Linux because of the crap they would have to go through. On the other hand lots of people are happy Linux users, in part due to the fantastic nvidida drivers. ATI's drivers are HURTING LINUX ADOPTION. If you disagree that's fine but that's exactly what's happening in reality here.
      You are perfectly right.I recently switched to linux and found myself in a lot of problems thanks to the ati idiots (even on windows i had problems:the screen flickes every once in a while and the BSOD visited me regulary).On linux the driver tries do diversify and breaks suspend/resume, performance and who knows what else.
      We often complain that we don't have games on linux.Well no one make them because you can't play at 1 fps
      I recently installed linux to a fried with a nvidia card(i think the word nvidia comes from envy......envy because you have ati. in my language "nvidia" is more similar to "envy")and everything worked: compiz, suspend/resume, World of Warcraft run thru wine at more then decent fps, good playback quality....the things you get with a videocard.
      So I hope AMD will help Ati rise from the ashes and by doing that it will help linux get more popular by having games and things......


      Anyway I hope they fired all the ati programmers

      I had to throw a mean joke so that we are even now

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      • #48
        I really think ATI needs to throw a lot of manpower behind the linux driver AND control center
        also that manpower has to grok the codebase in order to do something useful about it. that will take some time either way, whether they are going to hire new people or move some additional developers to linux team.

        well, aside for specs we do not have much information what's going on inside. are they really concerned about fglrx [and doing something about it], or are they doing things the old way?
        Last edited by yoshi314; 12-12-2007, 07:12 AM.

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        • #49
          well, aside for specs we do not have much information what's going on inside. are they really concerned about fglrx [and doing something about it], or are they doing things the old way?
          silence is golden - i think they're (ATI) going to have to announce something in response to all the community feedback (curses) that's accumulating - it'll either be something to shut us up (a "hectic omg" driver cough cough) or something that shows that all our feedback is going somewhere (like a massive changelog (with even more bugs)) or making the ati bugzilla official.

          With the ATI driver team so called "beefing up", more specs released sooner are a no brainer - i just hope it also means more community presence/interaction with the devs (their response seems most of the time "I can't comment on that", wait... "big announcement" then back to "no comment").

          Can someone refresh my memory - how many devs are working on the linux driver currently (not the core shared by win)?And how many positions were advertised overall?

          At the very least all this hiring means we come closer to a full spec RadeonHD

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          • #50
            Several monkeys are employed to write fglrx. Remember: if you have an infinite number of monkeys bashing away on an infinite number of PCs then it's only a matter of time before they write a working fglrx.

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            • #51
              fglrx needs more monkeys.

              let's hope that these are different monkeys than those preparing the specs

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Crunchy View Post
                Several monkeys are employed to write fglrx. Remember: if you have an infinite number of monkeys bashing away on an infinite number of PCs then it's only a matter of time before they write a working fglrx.
                Goddam you people bitch.

                Yes ATI support for linux is still lacking a bit but they are improving it and they are improving their driver dev team. It'll take time though.

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                • #53
                  in the meantime we have to do one thing ati linux customers have the most practice at - patiently wait.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Svartalf View Post
                    Uh, CHILL. Until AMD gets it's act together either by way of open drivers or properly working fglrx drivers, it's still a valid comment to people to get an NVidia card- in fact, for right now, I recommend that new or upgrading Linux users get NVidia G70 series parts as there's...
                    There's nothing more irritating than having some jerk on a forum snidely drop the "go buy an Nvidia card" comment every time someone has an ATI-related graphics problem.

                    Well, news flash... there are a huge number of people running an ATI/Linux combo on a LAPTOP.

                    You're suggesting that all of these people throw their whole PC away and get something else, because there are bugs in a driver?

                    Please.



                    Can we get some sort of ruling from the mods on this? Maybe a total moratorium on these "get an nvidia, tee hee" sophomoric comments?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by yoshi314 View Post
                      let's hope that these are different monkeys than those preparing the specs

                      Yes. Until Alex started I was the only monkey working directly on specs.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Porter View Post
                        There's nothing more irritating than having some jerk on a forum snidely drop the "go buy an Nvidia card" comment every time someone has an ATI-related graphics problem.

                        Well, news flash... there are a huge number of people running an ATI/Linux combo on a LAPTOP.

                        You're suggesting that all of these people throw their whole PC away and get something else, because there are bugs in a driver?

                        Please.



                        Can we get some sort of ruling from the mods on this? Maybe a total moratorium on these "get an nvidia, tee hee" sophomoric comments?
                        You're right but I think that huge number will remain unhappy for much time .

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Porter View Post
                          Can we get some sort of ruling from the mods on this? Maybe a total moratorium on these "get an nvidia, tee hee" sophomoric comments?

                          I ask that those with such comments just refrain from the spam or do it in the NVIDIA Phoronix forum. There won't be any banning or anything if you do make such comments, but everyone's free to voice their opinion as long as it doesn't get out of hand and turn into a flame war.
                          Michael Larabel
                          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Michael View Post
                            I ask that those with such comments just refrain from the spam or do it in the NVIDIA Phoronix forum. There won't be any banning or anything if you do make such comments, but everyone's free to voice their opinion as long as it doesn't get out of hand and turn into a flame war.
                            That said, Michael do you have the 7.12 beta driver allready? Do you have an AGP -> PCI-e card? and can atleast let us faintly know if we finally get to use our Rialto based cards?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by oliver View Post
                              That said, Michael do you have the 7.12 beta driver allready? Do you have an AGP -> PCI-e card? and can atleast let us faintly know if we finally get to use our Rialto based cards?
                              Like always, I am not permitted to discuss upcoming activities unless otherwise specified. Though if you pay attention to Phorogit, the catalyst-7.12 merge window is closing.
                              Michael Larabel
                              http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by bridgman View Post
                                Yes. Until Alex started I was the only monkey working directly on specs.
                                Since you are working on the specs, maybe you know this.

                                Currently the fglrx driver supports powerplay and allows switching between the states, but it allows only the default powerstate in dual head mode. (on r400)
                                Is powerstate switching when in dual head mode just not possible (by definition), or is this just a restriction made by the driver?

                                Or is this maybe r400 specific and would work on newer chips?

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