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  • #16
    It's been brought up before, but isn't Mesa portable to other OSes (AKA Windows)? If so, I'd really like to see a developer port the Mesa AMD drivers over to Windows 7/8 and do a comparison between them and the proprietary ones. If it's found that the Mesa drivers have similar (or possibly better?) performance while being, say, ~60% stabler (~60% less crashes/errors), I could see a ton of interest popping up in advancing Mesa and it's related drivers from *gasp* Windows devs

    Good help is good help, I don't care what OS the dev is using ^.^

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Panix View Post
      But, Catalyst 14.4 is supposedly working well in Ubuntu 14.04 (and probably Debian)? Check the AMD graphics section.
      Works a lot better than previous beta packages in 14.04 (I had to wait at least second to see typed in text, browsers had issues with redrawing etc.), but it's still very bad when comparing to how it was (while not perfect) in 13.10. :-/

      It was very bad idea to try to upgrade system once notification popped out (especially that it also broke grub and somehow root partition got damaged too that it required full reinstall...). ;-)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
        It's been brought up before, but isn't Mesa portable to other OSes (AKA Windows)? If so, I'd really like to see a developer port the Mesa AMD drivers over to Windows 7/8 and do a comparison between them and the proprietary ones. If it's found that the Mesa drivers have similar (or possibly better?) performance while being, say, ~60% stabler (~60% less crashes/errors), I could see a ton of interest popping up in advancing Mesa and it's related drivers from *gasp* Windows devs

        Good help is good help, I don't care what OS the dev is using ^.^
        yeah, would be nice.
        But wouldn´t it only support openGL on Windows then?
        Or would it be possible to use the installed directx?
        otherwise mesa would have to rebuild directx as oss...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Panix View Post
          But, Catalyst 14.4 is supposedly working well in Ubuntu 14.04 (and probably Debian)?
          For me (HD 6950) Catalyst working like crap on Kubuntu 14.04, e.g crash Xserver if I start Chrome with GPU acceleration.

          In same time it's working well on 12.04...

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          • #20
            Installing the Proprietary AMD Catalyst 14.4 (fglrx) Driver on Fedora 20, Kernel 3.14

            If anyone needs help with this issue, see my blog:

            http://bluehatrecord.wordpress.com/2...h-kernel-3-14/

            Full instructions for getting the latest AMD Catalyst 14.4 driver to work with Fedora 20 running the latest kernel version are there. It's a relatively simple process once you have it all detailed in one location. Furthermore, be sure to pay attention to the possibility that the AMD Catalyst 14.4 RC driver will actually work better than the non-RC driver (as detailed in the blog).

            Let me know if you have any issues; I'm glad to help troubleshoot!

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            • #21
              Stupid question: Why is it accepted these kernel changes are breaking device drivers in the first place?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by gamerk2 View Post
                Stupid question: Why is it accepted these kernel changes are breaking device drivers in the first place?
                1. These are proprietary drivers. We don't know what will and what won't break them in the first place. As always, the FOSS drivers work just fine with this latest kernel release ^.^
                2. Even if we DID know what would and would not break them, we wouldn't care. They are a 3rd party, it is not the job of the kernel devs to play nice with proprietary drivers when we have FOSS ones that (mostly) work fine...
                3. AMD has been playing with the idea of using the FOSS kernel-side code, so the proprietary driver would (ideally) never break between kernel releases, along with a ton of other benefits. SOOO looking forward to this

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                • #23
                  Hey man,

                  Thank you very much for this, it was really helpful.

                  [QUOTE=bitwiseoperator;418197]If anyone needs help with this issue, see my blog:

                  http://bluehatrecord.wordpress.com/2...h-kernel-3-14/

                  /QUOTE]

                  I used KDE from 2001 till about 2010 and I might be weird, but I really like gnome-shell. Three things put me off KDE after trying it again (yesterday):
                  * The launcher seems so... last decade in style
                  * The inability to use the windows key to bring up the launcher is incredibly frustrating. I compiled and installed ksuperwin but it didn't work reliably. I typically launch my apps by hitting windows then typing the name (both for windows and in gnome-shell)
                  * The Dolphin file browser also seems really dated and I figured if I had to change that to use nautilus I am probably barking up the wrong tree.

                  So I gave cinnamon a go, and wahey, it seems to do what I want (minus the expose by flicking the mouse to the top left corner).

                  Don't know if this helps anyone (and sorry if it annoys anyone) but other users might want to try cinnamon if they actually like gnome-shell.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by evanjfraser View Post
                    I used KDE from 2001 till about 2010 and I might be weird, but I really like gnome-shell. Three things put me off KDE after trying it again (yesterday):
                    * The launcher seems so... last decade in style
                    For someone claiming to have used KDE software for nine years, you are incredibly inapt to replace one launcher with another…

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                      For someone claiming to have used KDE software for nine years, you are incredibly inapt to replace one launcher with another…
                      Dude, I was only trying to be constructive. No need to be a wanker about it. Besides, grammatically speaking, your reply doesn't even make sense.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by evanjfraser View Post
                        Dude, I was only trying to be constructive.
                        You failed. You bashed one thing in order to promote Cinnamon. That's not constructive.

                        Originally posted by evanjfraser View Post
                        Besides, grammatically speaking, your reply doesn't even make sense.
                        Yeah, now bash the non-native speaker… (If you were constructive, you'd point out the mistake and correct it…)

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                        • #27
                          If you hadn't been so rude in the first place, I wouldn't have dreamed of correcting your grammar.

                          I'm sorry I offended you with presenting an infrequently mentioned alternative to KDE, and you're right I could have been more tactful.

                          You implied that it was my criticism of the launcher that set you off, I'm not sure why it upset you so much, perhaps you're a developer of it?

                          If so, I apologise, and thanks for the hard work in developing KDE.

                          If not, then I'm still sorry it upset you, but perhaps you could have responded more tactfully yourself? like: "hey man, did you look at X launcher? I/some like it"

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
                            For someone claiming to have used KDE software for nine years, you are incredibly inapt to replace one launcher with another…
                            Or, he can acknowledge that it is not his job to switch DEs around based on what AMD writes. What if he LIKES gnome-shell? I do, and I have been using Redhat (and then Fedora) for 17 years now.

                            My solution was to buy NVidia who knows how to code their drivers. I do not like KDE and I will not use something I dont like because AMD is too incompetent to code proper drivers.

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